panoz esperante, made in georgia

Mickey,
Is it a Riley?

No, it's not a Riley.

Could I please see this same photo from the back side? It would help me identify which model this one is.

Let's get this back on track:

datsun 2000

Swallow Doretti

Ac Ace

not really

I'd say Howard has got it right


Gustl

Howard got it. 1954 Swallow Doretti

It's new and available now. It generates 1000 lb/ft torque, 0-60 in 4 seconds.

did you stretch the photo??

Gustl

No, it's really that ugly.

TANGO

You can got to www.commutercars.com or


The TANGO specs


Width: 39" (5" narrower than a Honda Gold Wing)
Length: 8'5" long, allowing it to park perpendicular to the curb.
Height: 60"
Ground Clearance: 4"
Weight: 3,057 lbs.
Distribution: 44.3/55.7 (percent front/rear)
Batteries: 19 Hawker Odyssey's or 25 Exide Orbital XCD's or Optima Yellow Tops. Will accommodate Ni-MH and/or Li-Ion batteries in the future.
Nominal Voltage: 228 V with 19 Hawkers (300 V with 25 batteries)
Battery Weight: 988 lbs. (Hawker) or 1,025 lbs (Exide) or 1,125 lbs (Optima)
Charging: 50 amp on-board charger with Avcon conductive coupling. 200 amp off-board charger under development.
Steering: Rack and pinion with Cadillac CTS collapsible steering column and Momo Corse steering wheel
Front Suspension: Unequal length A-arm with coil-over Bilstein shocks.
Rear Suspension: Trailing arm with coil-over Bilstein shocks.
Controller: Zilla Z2K motor controller, providing up to 2,000 Amps at 300 Volts (600 kW). Designed and built by Otmar Ebenhoech at Café Electric LLC in Palo Alto, CA.
Motors: 2 Advanced DC FB1-4001 9" motors, one driving each rear wheel with over 1,000 ft-lb of combined torque at low rpms. 8,000 rpm redline.
Transmission: 2 direct drive gear boxes designed by Bert Transmission of St-Constant, Québec, the leading manufacturer of dirt circle track race car transmissions. Semi-quick-change with 10 available ratios from 2.92:1 to 5:1. Standard ratio is 3.25:1. Splined locker can be easily engaged by removing C-clip, sliding sleeve and replacing C-clip.
Wheels: 5.5 x 13, 3 spoke alloy, 5 bolt on 115 mm center
Hubs/Wheel Bearings: As used on the Pontiac Bonneville and some Cadillacs.
Front Tires: BF Goodrich Euro T/A 175/50R13 M+S
Rear Tires: Yokohama Advan A032R P215/50R13 (S Compound): Yokohama's ultimate DOT-approved racing tire.
Brakes: Acura Integra front disk brake calipers and Scorpio rear calipers (with integrated parking brake). Wilwood master cylinder and pedal assembly.
HVAC: 12,000 BTU Vintage Air air conditioning system driven by variable speed AC motor for predictable climate control. 3,000 W electric heater for instant-on, powerful heating.
Seating: Tandem Sparco Roadster bucket seats with attached 4-point harness structures. Passenger straddles the front seat and harness structures which do not interfere with the passenger's knees.
Storage: Passenger and a few bags of groceries with rear seat installed. Removed, it allows seven 10-ream cartons of paper with the driver's seat in extended position. (Rear seat with harness structure is removable through rear hatch.) Multiple compartments for smaller items.
Headroom: 39" driver and passenger.
Trailer Hitch: Accepts standard 1.25" hitch for towing generator cart for extended range.
Note: Projected performance specifications will vary depending on final weight, gearing, tires, and batteries used. Acceleration figures assume racing slicks are used on a drag strip.
Range: 40-80 miles maximum with Lead-Acid batteries
60-160 miles maximum with NiMH batteries
Cost per Mile: About 1/2 the cost of a gasoline car for the average commuter. (See note.)
Acceleration: 0 to 60 MPH, about 4 seconds. 1/4 mile time about 12 seconds at a speed of approx. 120 MPH (See note.)
Top Speed: 150 MPH (See note.)

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Notes:



Cost per Mile:

The average round-trip commute in the U.S. is 20 miles according to the 2000 report from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.

For that average commute of 20 miles and up to 24 miles per charge, the total cost per mile of the Tango is approximately 30% lower than that of a Honda Insight. This includes battery replacement, maintenance, and the cost of electricity at $.05 per kWh (as in the Northwest). The Honda Insight has an EPA rating of 56 mpg city and 57 highway. Please see the Cost-per-Mile Spreadsheet for details. This spreadsheet shows how the Tango compares with other vehicles, both Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) driven and hybrid. It includes gasoline and recommended dealer maintenance costs for the gasoline cars and electricity, maintenance, and battery replacement costs for the Tango.

In California where electricity rates are nearly $.15 per kWh, the total cost per mile for the Tango becomes roughly equal to that of the Insight. Electricity cost per mile runs from 0.9 cents to 2.6 cents as cost per kWh goes from 5 cents to 15 cents.

Battery replacement is the largest portion of the cost-per-mile for an electric car. To demonstrate how this works, we use Optima's cycle life vs. depth of discharge graph. This graph applies to laboratory-controlled charge and discharge cycles, yet is quite indicative of the effects of driver habits. If the Tango were driven to 80% DOD (depth of discharge) or more (approximately 64 to 80 miles regularly between charges), the pack will only yield 250 cycles. This works out to approximately 16 cents per mile with current Optima Yellow Top prices of $100. However, if discharged to 25% DOD (20 to 24 miles between charges), the chart shows 4,000 cycles can be achieved yielding 80,000 miles with a cost of only 3.1 cents per mile.

Acceleration:

0 to 60 MPH, about 4 seconds. 1/4 mile time about 12 seconds at a speed of approximately 120 MPH. These figures are based on comparisons with other cars that hold official records with NEDRA (National Electric Drag Racing Association). Calculations have taken weight, motor torque, controller, voltage, gear ratio, and traction into consideration. They assume that racing slicks are fitted and driven on a drag strip with good traction conditions. For example, the world record held for a dragster used the same controller as the Tango in the Current Eliminator IV, with a quarter mile time of 8.801 seconds at 137.65 MPH. The Tango has the same motors that the Maniac Mazda used to achieve an 11.039 second quarter mile at 111.80 MPH.

Top Speed:

150 MPH. This is a limitation based on a practical red-line for the motors of about 8,000 RPM with the standard 3.25:1 gear ratio. Top speed vs. acceleration can be traded off by choosing any of 10 different ratios from 2.92:1 giving a top speed of 172 MPH to 5:1 which would give a top speed of 100 MPH. The 5:1 would give phenomenal acceleration if you could get enough traction.

'Effin show off!
EEK!

Okay try this one, may be easy for some of you.

bump

here's the solution: http://www.twike.ch/

it's a Twike from Swizerland

Gustl

sorry that I don't wait for confirmation, but I need your help with this one ...

A Lotus XI with a really bad nose job?

the Lotus thing was my first idea too

but based on a rumor it's a US car ...

Gustl

That's a Mosquito Proboscis....Very rare..

no better ideas

Did anyone notice the 914 contecnt of the Tango above?

"Controller: Zilla Z2K motor controller, providing up to 2,000 Amps at 300 Volts (600 kW). Designed and built by Otmar Ebenhoech at Café Electric LLC in Palo Alto, CA."

Built by one of our own...

another guy found out that the red car was a "Bocar Stiletto"

here's another question which should be easier for you ... I was told that it is an american car:

Cadillac allante.

1969 Ford Galaxie Vert?

Here is a good one. I don't know if it is a kit car or a real car. Maybe a Saab Sonnett with a body kit???

this is not a kit car - I know this one

let the others guess a little ... if nobody will find out I'll tell you the solution

Gustl

could it be a fiat?

saab sonett III

what about this one, should b easy

Easy? That's a tough one!! There are so many Lotus 7 clones out there it's almost impossible to tell them apart!!

Guess: Stalker V6? Looks a little to wide-mouthed to be a Caterham, though that almost looks like the Caterham logo on the nose.

--DD

I thought you had to guess the car before you put up another car to guess, Hydra, this is a Saab Sonnet III

Oh and by the way Hydra your car is an Elfin Clubman made in Austrailia.

URY 914 is an Abarth but I am still working on the model.

Ferg, Look at the rear window and the trunk gaps, the Ford does not match.
Wolfgang you posted the pic, is it a Ford?

I'm not really sure about it yet ... but I'll let you know as soon as there's a proof

Abarth has to do something with this car - but the correct name starts with something else ...

Fiat abarth 1300 scorpione?

this could be the correct answer - but it might be another one of these:

Abarth Grand Prix
Giannini Grand Prix
Lombardi Grand Prix
OTAS 820 Grand Prix
Fiat-Lombardi Grand Prix
Abarth Scorpione 1300S

all these cars are more or less the same, but it seems to be one of the Abarths - because of the front hood crest ...

Gustl

it sure is the crest that got me searching for an abarth...
now i've already took my shot at posting a pic, and since boxstr was the one to guess it, i think it would be only fair for him to post the next one...

- this is the rule we play it at the german forum



Gustl

Okay here is one for you to try..

Mazda Suitcase car

Mazda? I thought Honda suitcase car.

how about this..

356 Carrera Abarth

How about this:

Morgan Threewheeler

Hey that was to easy...try this.