Saturday sounds great! Rain or shine works for me. They're saying 20% chance for showers, so it shouldn't be much of an issue.

Meet here at my place, do some preliminary planning and then head to RP and run the route(s). Sound good? What time works for you?

What would be the airport of choice to fly to for the event?

San Francisco, Oakland and Sacramento airports are all about 1 - 1.5 hours from Rohnert Park.

I am trying to schedule a business trip for either the week before or the week after this. If I can do it, I will be in Chino. Is anyone from there going to this event? I would love to hook up with a 914 for the event, and turn in the rent car at the Ontario Airport.

Toast... do you want a ride along mechanic?

Hmm, my wife needs to schedule 3 or 4 days in San Francisco for work at her convenience.

duh... look at a map.

you are between both my residences.....
10 minutes from my apt at school....

Yea.. but if I have a choice to ride with your ugly, Napoleon Dynamite on Crack face, or with a beautiful redhead, I am definitely going to choose the beautiful redhead!

Which venue are we planning to use for AX? Shultz Airport in Santa Rosa? I think I can get away for the Monday event. Since I dont have road legal 914 currently can I drive my Miata to other events?

I'm all registered and will send a check!

Yep, Shultz. The event is all about the people. If you can bring a 914, great. But regardless, we're just happy to get together with each other, with or without a 914.

Okay, here is a silly question.

I can't devote as much time as this to a second event in a month and a half(Alpine 500 is doing 5th and final run last weekend in April), just can't do it, sort of overcommitted in general. Would it be considered bad form for me to show up Saturday morning, ogle cars in the parking lot and chase after y'all up and down Oakville Grade, or wherever you happen to be driving that day, then drive home?

Sure.. I assume that it will be handled like it was at the MUSR. At the MUSR, we said if you wanted to just come for the drive, then you had to sign the PCA waiver form. If you wanted to participate in any of the events where you could end up with a trophy, then you had to pay the entry fee to the whole event.


If you want to display your car at the car show, you are welcome to, but it won't be judged unless you pay the entry fee. And the reason for that is the entry fees pay for the trophys and the venue, and such.


That's the way it was handled at the MUSR. Now McMark may have other ideas.

Clay, you DO have a choice. Go to your Chino meeting, get the beautiful Toasty one to drive you up to Sacramento on the way to Rohnert Park, She knows the way as she has Peeps in North Highlands, and you can use my Bumblebee for the event. Don't worry. Fully insured. Very reliable. Goes like hell!

Now that is a hell of a nice offer. I wonder if the airlines will have a problem with me bringing my helmet on the plane??

Toasty one... would you be so kind as to drive me up the coast??? Please don't make me ride with that overgrown brat Aaron. :beg:

Clay,

I don't know when or where you are flying in but I'll be dropping my wife and daughter at LAX on the 14th and heading back to Bakersfield then leaving for the WCR Friday morning.

I'd be more than happy to get ya there...

Clay, you explained that very well. Tobra, the registration is only $25. If you're going to come on the drive, you're gonna wanna eat the lunch that's provided. And that's what part of the $25 is for. And BTW, come Friday night and crash in someone elses room. Friday is a hoot!!!

I'm in.

stupid question:

if we're under the PCA does that mean all cars will need to be porsche powered??? as opposed to SCCA which allows any power plants...

No - we're fine. Local PCA rules for Golden Gate Region actually allow non-porsche plants for AX now.

Fiid's got it right. Non-porsche powered cars are allowed.

Only for PCA members. if you are not a PCA member then you need to have a Porsche....period...no motor transplants.
It is at the discretion of the AX chair...if there are an excess of cars then non porsches or non porsche powered cars can be excluded.

i don't get it. is this a PCA AX? or a WCA AX using PCA insurance?

This will be a 914Sig event. It is covered THROUGH the local region, and for that the local region gets some cash (and hopefully we get to borrow their equipment). But it is strictly a SIG event, and the event chair (I.E. McMark) decides the rules and classifications for the AX. We have multiple classes for an AX at the MUSR. 1.7 and 1.8 stock 4 cylinders, 2.0 stock 4 cylinders, modified 4 cylinders of any type (carbs make it a modified 4) stock 6 cylinder, modified 6 and 8 cylinder, and anything else from a taildragger to a waterpumper to a Suburban! Yes, Tom Ewing ran his Suburban in the AX at MUSR 6.

Now the event chair can choose to have an AX that coincides with a region AX, and then the region rules would take precedence.


So, to shorten the answer, IF McMark decides to hold a WCR AX, with participants from the WCR only, then it can be "run what you brung", If he piggybacks on a locak region AX, then the local AX rules apply.


Does that answer the question?

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But the SIG is different from your normal PCA events, AFAIK. Allowing everyone to run is a major point for me. I just hope we don't have to source alternative insurance to do it. This is definitely something that needs to be cleared up...

The insurance is run through PCA national, and there is no rule that says you must have a Porsche to run. Our local region has regular participants in Miatas, WRXs, corvettes, and Minis. In fact, the local Mini club runs in our AX, but they have their own points and trophys for the club. They don't have enough members to run their own event.

I think your issue is with your region, not PCA in general. I am sure that Charlie will chime in here and explain the "official" opinion.

And yes, the SIG is different. IF it is a SIG event, then the event chair makes the rules, as long as they are safe.

This is based completely on the power plant then, right? Suspension mods won't put us in other classes.

I might have a chance against other bone stock 2.0s running D-jet! Woo hoo!

Edit - Wait, what am I thinking? I guess I'll be in modified because I'll have a 2056. Right? I'd try to sneak this under the radar, but Mark already knows my motor plans!

That is the class system we use for the MUSR. Mark is free to set the classes up how HE wants to.

I need to make up a classification system too!

Four Cylinders VS Six Cylinders VS Transplants

See that was easy.

Mark,
This might be a regional rule. SVR invites ESCA and BMWCCA to our events. So far we have had only a BMW guy that I know of. He was not a member of PCA and we reprinted his BMW article in the Drifter this month...
SVR does not require that the autocrosser be a PCA member.

I agree... TTOD

Me, Randy, and John drove the Saturday Tour route today. It's a REALLY amazing route. Some great Sonoma rolling hills scenery, coastline/oceanside driving, and more twisties than you can shake a 914 at.

I think Randy has some pictures he might be able to share.

Make sure your brakes and suspension are in good order because they WILL BE GIVEN A SEVERE WORKOUT!!!

That was fun, thanks Mark! I'll post the photos later tonight or early tomorrow. Headed out to see some other friends now.

Pay Pal sent.

I'm going to get my 914 cherry popped.

It'll be my 914's first real 914 event and first AX ever. =-))))))

I'm stoked.

Our scouting run yesterday was done in damp, cloudy, raining conditions, but the weather will be perfect come June.

Here are some photos from the last half of the route (not sure why I didn't pull the cam out sooner!):

A few more:

Thanks Randy! Next time we'll bring a video camera and take some in car footage. And we'll drive 914s.

Looks awesome! I love those kinds of roads.....

For anyone who is coming to the WRC, this is going to be a great run. We only did half of it yesterday, and the roads and scenery were amazing. It will be a blast in the 914's

It is not the $25 entry fee, it is the three days.

I have money, time is where I run into trouble. I can get up at 5 or 6 in the morning, be there when you guys are rubbing the sleep out of your eyes, go from Rhonert Park, over the hill, around the dale, beating the living crap out of my car all the way.

That way, I can get home that evening and maintain domestic tranquility, always a plus

I'm doing the same thing. I'm going to register, but I'll only be attending the Satruday run and maybe head back to Santa Rosa for the auto-x on Monday.

You guys will be missing out on a big part of the fun. The first WCC I went home each afternoon after the organized events were over because I was local. The second WCC was in SoCal, so I that wasn't an option - and I found out how much more fun it was to dedicate the whole time to the event. So this year, despite being local, I will be staying in Rohnert Park for the whole weekend.

Demick

P.S. I know this is not an option for everyone. Believe me I know - I'm up to my ears in commitments, family, etc too. Just trying to point out that the WCC/WCR is about much more than just an autocross and twisty road tour. I didn't get it until WCC'05. So if you can swing it, stay for it's entirety.

Wish I could go. Life is funny, never know what's around the next curve.

you'll be missing out on the real fun part ...

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Those roads look like some of the ones I got lost on a couple times out west of Petaluma. Are one or two of those photos from Marshall-Petaluma road? I spent 45 mins without seeing another car out there on a Saturday afternoon in the winter.

The Marshall-Petaluma road is a ways south from this area, though we've done 914 tours on that route in the past. It's suffered greatly though in last years storms and isn't nearly as nice as it used to be. I recall both Dug and Brad catching air on a few of the crests on that road closer to Marshall...

Here's that route:

Petaluma to Marshall Map

Here's the proposed route for the WCR drive, though I think I may tweak the first 1/4 part a bit:

Proposed WCR Route Map - The lunch stop is at "G".

There's going to be some traffic regardless of where we go on Saturday, but getting up north should help a little bit.

Here's a screen capture. Point H is also Point A which is the Hotel.

How many miles is that?

..does that Yahoo Maps link NOT work for anyone else, besides me?

Never Mind, I had the OLD Yahoo Maps loaded up.
Thanks Randy.

Just click on the map link I posted. Total mileage is retentively short, at just 135 mi from the hotel, around and back to the hotel. Driving time is around 3.5 hours.