Tom
Sep 27 2011, 11:09 AM
At this time all of the kits have been spoken for. After some questions, I realized I never put up a pic of what the kit contains. There have benn a few design changes; the plexiglass plate is dark grey and thicker, the female lugs are 4 14-16 lugs and 4 10-12 lugs, and the two stand-offs will be pvc pipe at about 1/2" diameter. Oh, and I'm adding a 15 amp fuse for a total of 7 fuses.
Kit doesn't show the heat shrink or two cable clamps, but they will be there.
Here are a couple of pics:
Tom
Update on the kits and those who expressed interest.
In post #47 there is a list of the folks that I sent a private message to on 26 Sept. The names with an X behind the name have answered the PM. The rest who haven't, are you still interested?
Parts should be here later this week October 3-7. I can start sending kits on Friday or Saturday after receipt of payment.
Thanks,
Tom
moparrob
Oct 2 2011, 05:07 PM
QUOTE(Tom @ Oct 2 2011, 01:31 PM)
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Update on the kits and those who expressed interest.
In post #47 there is a list of the folks that I sent a private message to on 26 Sept. The names with an X behind the name have answered the PM. The rest who haven't, are you still interested?
Parts should be here later this week October 3-7. I can start sending kits on Friday or Saturday after receipt of payment.
Thanks,
Tom
Pm sent
Got the tracking number for the parts and they will be here Friday. I can ship kits as early as Saturday if payment has cleared.
The payment has been received from the following and you guys will get kits shipped Saturday.
Montoya 73 2.0
Michael 7810
Harpo - sent you a PM.
bigkensteele
Rleog
Thanks,
Tom
Gint
Oct 4 2011, 05:44 PM
I'm a horrible procrastinator with a check. But I actually mailed mine this morning. I'm in no particular rush to get it though. Thanks.
OK Gint, I'll keep on the look-out for it.
Thanks,
Tom
wingnut86
Oct 5 2011, 01:25 PM
USPS "...Money Gram for Mongo..."
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is en route Tom. I'll send receipt numbers when I get home tonight...
76-914
Oct 15 2011, 10:56 PM
Wow. Opened my kit tonight. It's very professionally done. I think Tom might be related to Mikey914
moparrob
Oct 15 2011, 11:08 PM
Yep, I got mine too. Thanks again - it looks good!
Tom
Oct 16 2011, 07:23 AM
Thanks guys,
I have three to ship out Monday to Type47 Fan,wingnut86, and rwilner and then there a couple of guys I'm waiting on to see if they decided or not. If they don't, I already have several guys wanting to purchase the left over ones.
Also adding a pic with the cable clamps installed and the fuses down graded. 20 amp in the outside fuses and 15 amp in the two inside ones. If one blows, I'll up it to the next higher. In this case, smaller is better.
Thanks again,
Tom
76-914
Feb 7 2012, 01:42 PM
Thx, TOM. The fuse block saved me again. I pm'd TOM & thanked him regarding the 1st incident but thought I would make the 2nd time public. I installed a Ford Style starter solenoid for preventative maintenance. Turns out it was a cheap CPOS. After < 2 weeks it bit the dust. I had just re-installed the engine and after perhaps 3 starts it reared its ugly head. It fused and the starter would not quit turning over. Before I could grab an SAE wrench to loosen and remove the neg post the 25a fuse blew. Whew! Wires were warm but still intact.
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I bypassed the solenoid until I can make it to the junk yard to buy a good one.
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Anyway, that's twice that your kit saved me. Thx, again, kent
Kent,
That is good news to hear!!
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That the fuse block saved damage, not your solenoid going bad! Really makes me glad I went thru the making of these.
Thanks,
Tom
clapeza
Feb 7 2012, 02:49 PM
Any chance of another run of these coming together?
If there is enough interest, I will consider it.
Tom
Casper
Feb 8 2012, 01:34 PM
To get the ball rolling, I'll take two.
Tom Cooper
QUOTE(Tom @ Feb 8 2012, 11:23 AM)
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If there is enough interest, I will consider it.
Tom
burton73
Feb 8 2012, 01:36 PM
QUOTE(Casper @ Feb 8 2012, 11:34 AM)
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To get the ball rolling, I'll take two.
Tom Cooper
QUOTE(Tom @ Feb 8 2012, 11:23 AM)
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If there is enough interest, I will consider it.
Tom
And I will buy three (3)
Bob Burton
zymurgist
Feb 8 2012, 01:42 PM
I will buy one.
wingnut86
Feb 8 2012, 02:24 PM
Tom,
I hope this grabs alot of interest, especially since many had questioned whether this would do enough to warrant moving forward.
One extremely important milestone has been reached. The answer is: yes, it helps to mitigate electrical fires.
Dave
euro911
Feb 8 2012, 03:43 PM
I'm in for one as well.
clapeza
Feb 8 2012, 04:04 PM
Of course, I'm in for one.
Chester
1988Hawk
Feb 8 2012, 04:58 PM
QUOTE(Tom @ Feb 8 2012, 01:23 PM)
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If there is enough interest, I will consider it.
Tom
I'm in for one.
Jim
somd914
Feb 8 2012, 05:05 PM
I'm in for one, perhaps another for a friend.
Scott S
Feb 8 2012, 05:09 PM
I will take one as well -
Black22
Feb 8 2012, 05:18 PM
I'll take one.
bandjoey
Feb 8 2012, 05:19 PM
+1
potomacmidget
Feb 8 2012, 09:11 PM
I will buy one too.
bcheney
Feb 9 2012, 07:39 AM
+1 for me
JRust
Feb 9 2012, 09:23 AM
I'm in for 2
rgolia
Feb 9 2012, 10:09 AM
I will take one
rwilner
Feb 9 2012, 03:05 PM
Thought people might be interested in some installed pics...
Kit looks clean and can be installed in 1 to 2 hours if you're being careful. (I happened to do mine while the engine was out of my car which obviously makes it a snap.)
Note: tom includes a plastic mounting plate, I substituted a piece of stainless bar I had lying around.
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Rich,
Thanks for posting the pics. I have been waiting to see how others would like to make the mounting. I went with the plastic due to the insulating qualities, but don't see why a metal one wouldn't be just as good. Maybe the new kits will include your idea, if that is Ok with you. The plastic is difficult to work with and is more expensive too. I thought of a aluminum piece with a coating might be good. anyone have any better ideas?
Thanks,
Tom
jmill
Feb 9 2012, 07:45 PM
QUOTE(Tom @ Feb 9 2012, 07:11 PM)
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I thought of a aluminum piece with a coating might be good. anyone have any better ideas?
Phenolic or micarta.
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In researching, I've found that 14 ga. wire is good for 40 amps, so really no need to go 12 ga. Of course you are welcome to modify yours as you think necessary. Wire is expensive!!
Some wire sizing info.
wingnut86
Feb 9 2012, 08:20 PM
Carbon Fiber
jmill
Feb 9 2012, 10:25 PM
QUOTE(wingnut86 @ Feb 9 2012, 08:20 PM)
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Carbon Fiber
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Carbon fiber is pretty but I think he was looking for a non conductive alternative.
rwilner
Feb 10 2012, 07:47 AM
QUOTE(Tom @ Feb 9 2012, 08:11 PM)
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Rich,
Thanks for posting the pics. I have been waiting to see how others would like to make the mounting. I went with the plastic due to the insulating qualities, but don't see why a metal one wouldn't be just as good. Maybe the new kits will include your idea, if that is Ok with you. The plastic is difficult to work with and is more expensive too. I thought of a aluminum piece with a coating might be good. anyone have any better ideas?
Thanks,
Tom
Tom
Of course you can use any idea I come up with! No need to ask.
My local ace harware carries aluminum and steel bar stock in various widths and thicknesses to experiment with. You can buy larger quantities cheaper from McMaster once you find dimensions you're happy with.
I also considered a piece of angle iron affixed to the front lip of the battery tray, but I had the bar, screws and standoffs lying around, so that's what I used.
I think aluminum is the best material for this -- you could tap the 2 holes to mount the fuse block and eliminate the need for nuts in those locations. I would tap them with the same thread as the engine tin screws -- I think they're M8s. I was going to tap my steel bar but it was too thin (only 1/16").
Because the fuse block is insulated, there's no need for the mounting bar to have insulating qualities. If you wanted it to be non-conductive you could always hit it with some enamel...if you used the car's body color it would look almost factory.
For anyone on the fence...I think this a quick, cheap, and very worthwhile upgrade.
Tom
Feb 12 2012, 03:53 PM
Well, it certainly looks if there are quite a few interested in this mod. I'll search around for some aluminum bar stock to make the mounting plate from and see what patrs I need to order. No one seems to be using the sticky pads, so I'll drop them from the kit, I didn't use them either. When I get everything together, I'll let everyone know the cost, but probably $25.00, shipping included.
I will leave this open for say 10 days before ordering parts, to give all who want one time to answer.
Tom
Black22
Feb 12 2012, 05:15 PM
I posted earlier, but wanted to say I'm still in for one!
Thanks for doing this again Tom!!
wingnut86
Feb 12 2012, 06:27 PM
Sometime the local Tractor Supply Company will carry odd bits of aluminum in stock.
John - That's humor, everyone nowadays wants CF parts for replacements for just about anything.
I read of some guys that were planning to produce whole Jagr E-class bodies from CF. Too rich for my blood
Tom
Feb 15 2012, 01:29 PM
I found some 1/8" X 1" bar stock that I think will do the job nicely. I will include a larger piece of heat shrink that can be placed just under the fuse block area if anyone has any concerns.
I don't supply the mounting screws or bolts to mount these kits. Some may want metric, others std., so I will leave that up to the individual.
I have, previously, stressed the importance of good solid connections in electrical systems. The system is only efficient in carrying current and voltage as the poorest connection allows. So I will put together the 4 wires and connectors between the battery positive and the fuse block if you so desire. There will be a slight charge. $2.50 per kit. See pic #2.
Basic kit will be $25.00 with shipping included, $27.50 if you want the connectors installed, and $30.00 if you need a new battery connector shown in the pic. The connector on the wires to the battery is the same ID size as OEM, so if your positive batt connector is in good shape, they will fit the stock bolt.
There are 5 days left before I order parts.
For you guys who don't desire a kit, be advised it would be a great idea to check your wire condition at the connector to the positive connector. I dissected my connections and was surprised at how many strands of the original wire were broken due to vibration. On one of the 2.5 mm wires which had 32 strands of 0.28mm copper wire, over half were broken. What this does is cause trouble in trouble shooting electrical problems. That wire would read continuity just fine, voltage just fine under no load conditions, but under load would drop excessive voltage. Any of you who have the hot - no starter issues would do well to closely inspect this area and maybe put new connectors on. Just for your info, the 4.0mm wires have 55 strands of 0.28mm copper wire. Spent some time on the computer trying to find out why different wire companies make wire different. Gets too involved for this thread. US standard seems to like 19 strands of different dia. copper wire to make up different current ratings for most of the more common sized wires.
Later,
Tom
wingnut86
Feb 15 2012, 02:33 PM
Thanks Tom!
Once I land again, I'll double my effort on a fuse box option/solution.
I've narrowed it down to the late model Beetles and BMWs - trying to keep it German and price point minded. Plus there are a helluva lot of these cars in junkyards, not the best option but better than 40 year old firestarters!
Recently, having been thrust into the middle of a rear-ender my wife and daughter experienced allowed me to view the whole Toyota Prius as a bunch of rear parts were replaced. The Prius has a very compact and rugged fuse panel under the front hood for the major electrical needs, minus the regen motors and fuel cell rack. It also provides standoffs on the panel so you can jump the car if the 12v battery is drained - yes, I had to test this one night.
The sealed dry cell battery is located in the back of the car. This arrangement is a bit harder to source in junkyards but I still want to pull one complete for a view.
Dave
rgolia
Feb 15 2012, 05:34 PM
I am still in.....I will take the $30 version
bcheney
Feb 16 2012, 05:17 PM
QUOTE(rgolia @ Feb 15 2012, 04:34 PM)
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I am still in.....I will take the $30 version
Me to... $30 version. How and when will you accept payment?
Tom
Feb 16 2012, 07:31 PM
I have received replies from all except Zymurgist and Somd914 about what style of kit they want and as soon as they let me know, no hurry as I know some are checking their friends, I will order the parts, hopefully not later than 22 Feb. Expect about two weeks to get all of the parts and begin putting kits together. As soon as I get the parts, I will send everyone an address to send either a money order or personal check for payment. If you have any requests for longer wires for a different location, and/or no aluminum mounting plate, let me know and we can make that work for you.
Thanks,
Tom
Gint
Feb 16 2012, 10:38 PM
Put me down for a $30 setup.
euro911
Feb 17 2012, 12:05 AM
QUOTE(Tom @ Feb 16 2012, 05:31 PM)
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... If you have any requests for longer wires for a different location, and/or no aluminum mounting plate, let me know and we can make that work for you.
Thanks,
Tom
Who in their right mind would order one with longer wires?
Oh yeah
Thanks a lot Tom
zymurgist
Feb 17 2012, 04:56 PM
I'll take the $27.50 setup.
Tom
Feb 17 2012, 07:09 PM
Ken,
You will have it in a couple of weeks. Only one left to make up their mind and they are checking with some friends. Parts should be ordered on 22 Feb. After I order the parts, I'll let everyone know, by PM, where to send either a personal check or money order.
Thanks,
Tom
mzalanka
Feb 18 2012, 01:59 PM
If it's not too late, I'm in for the $30 kit.
Michael
QUOTE(Tom @ Feb 17 2012, 05:09 PM)
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Ken,
You will have it in a couple of weeks. Only one left to make up their mind and they are checking with some friends. Parts should be ordered on 22 Feb. After I order the parts, I'll let everyone know, by PM, where to send either a personal check or money order.
Thanks,
Tom
7275914911
Feb 18 2012, 05:55 PM
I am also intersted if not to late...PM has been sent.
Thx in advance..
somd914
Feb 19 2012, 09:09 PM
I'm in for the $30 kit. PM sent as follow up.
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