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dlkawashima
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jul 17 2012, 08:22 AM) *

look at all the regular back runners who are NEVER in the hunt. derick cope (tacoma local) for example. the woman can drive and is a hell of alot easier on the eyes than janet guthrie.

Derrike Cope is the guy's name. But he does have two nieces that are attractive and getting attention, just like Danica.
carr914
Janet Guthrie could drive better than DP

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rhodyguy
i have no idea how this was on the front page scott. i just replied. i did not pull this up from the archives.

thanks for clearing up derrike's correct spelling and the fact that the "woman" was patrick. oh, i mean danika not swayze. sharp eye dave. while we're in grammar mode, most sentences don't start with "but".

i assumed nothing tc nor did i use the word "REAL" in the post. get out your reading glasses or presume less. i didn't know vic was a member of 914world. he sure doesn't post much. exactly how many 'known' pro racers regularly post on the site? nascar, indy, etc...name 2. while you're at it, name me 2 full time professionally employed racers who hang here.



cope's twin nieces (ashley and amber?) were recently in a photo shoot in one of the non-nude men's mags (FM i think). with the first win one of them achieved she bought sets of bolts ons for her and her sister. my neighbor crewed for them before they made the move back east.
euro911
I was pretty good at kart racing when I was a teen (MANY years ago) ... tried it again briefly in my late 30's and found I still had some skill left in me.

I have no idea how I'd do in a real car in a real track environment, probably not that great. I think it takes some pretty big balls (or tits as it goes) to get out on a track with professional drivers.

I'd like to try it though smile.gif

Charmin TP might sponsor me stromberg.gif

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URY914
I just googled the Cope twins. Those are two crackhead lookin' girls. They should sue the store they bought those tits from.
rhodyguy
way too big and obviously fake. prob obscure their navel rings when unfettered.

k
URY914
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jul 17 2012, 11:26 AM) *

way too big and obviously fake. prob obscure their navel rings when unfettered.

k


Wish they were big enough to obscure thier faces....
rhodyguy
av-943.gif . good one paul. NOT sandbox worthy for sure.
biggy72
I used to race in a lower class at the same track the cope twins were at. They are actually really pretty, but they have definitely gone down hill as they have gotten more and more fake looking...

They are also both pretty good drivers, but I'm not sure they are good enough to be running the nationwide series. It just makes it worse that they can't afford very good equipment so they're always at the tail end of the field when they do make a race.
andys
Did anyone catch Kevin Harvick's comments post Natiowide race? He got blocked by Amber Cope who was 20+ laps down (?), and it cost him the victory. Said she doesn't belong out there, and the she couldn't carry Danica's helmet......If a well respected front running Cup guy thinks well of Danica, it's a credible endorsement.

Andys
carr914
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jul 17 2012, 11:22 AM) *

if ANY of the racers on this forum were capable of competing in NASCAR (even the old winston west series) they'd be doing it. big dif between 60 to 80 seconds on an AX course at what, 60mph tops and all alone, and getting a gentle nudge at 190+ or 3 wide flat out on the high banks. as for her size...jeff gordon, kasey kahne, and others aren't exactly giants.

the indy guys who consistantly wad up their cars and never finish in the top 10 let alone the top 20.

look at all the regular back runners who are NEVER in the hunt. derick cope (tacoma local) for example. the woman can drive and is a hell of alot easier on the eyes than janet guthrie.


You don't Understand Big-Time Racing. There is a Reason that the saying " How do you make a Small Fortune Racing? Start with a Large Fortune" is so true. Without the Bankroll of Motorola, Go Daddy etc, Danica would be making some man a Samwich right now.

I have raced against ( & beaten) some of the Big Names ( Montoya, Andretti, Herta, etc), but I raced on Emotion & Talent and very little Money. When I had to pay for Crash Damage (in 1991, while also going through a nasty Divorce) it basically ended the Dream. But I can say I was a Finalist for Jack Roush's Gong Show talent search ( Robby Gordon Won) & I still have the talent.
broomhandle
Vanina Ickx is also better than DP.
carr914
QUOTE(broomhandle @ Jul 17 2012, 07:42 PM) *

Vanina Ickx is also better than DP.


agree.gif as is Cyndie Allerman & Maryeve Default
broomhandle
People in the US just like DP becasue they think she is the only female driver in the history of the world. and they also think that nascar is the only racing in the world....

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struckn
Well, Danica's not hard to look at.......might have something to do with it and the Go Daddy gig doesn't hurt getting her noticed either.

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URY914
Nationwide Series: Crash ends Danica Patrick's return to IMS

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120728/S...ck-s-return-IMS

“This guy is starting to piss me off,” Patrick angrily told her crew over the radio.


A moment later, she was out of the race.

ConeDodger
QUOTE(carr914 @ Jul 17 2012, 03:03 PM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jul 17 2012, 11:22 AM) *

if ANY of the racers on this forum were capable of competing in NASCAR (even the old winston west series) they'd be doing it. big dif between 60 to 80 seconds on an AX course at what, 60mph tops and all alone, and getting a gentle nudge at 190+ or 3 wide flat out on the high banks. as for her size...jeff gordon, kasey kahne, and others aren't exactly giants.

the indy guys who consistantly wad up their cars and never finish in the top 10 let alone the top 20.

look at all the regular back runners who are NEVER in the hunt. derick cope (tacoma local) for example. the woman can drive and is a hell of alot easier on the eyes than janet guthrie.


You don't Understand Big-Time Racing. There is a Reason that the saying " How do you make a Small Fortune Racing? Start with a Large Fortune" is so true. Without the Bankroll of Motorola, Go Daddy etc, Danica would be making some man a Samwich right now.

I have raced against ( & beaten) some of the Big Names ( Montoya, Andretti, Herta, etc), but I raced on Emotion & Talent and very little Money. When I had to pay for Crash Damage (in 1991, while also going through a nasty Divorce) it basically ended the Dream. But I can say I was a Finalist for Jack Roush's Gong Show talent search ( Robby Gordon Won) & I still have the talent.


agree.gif Neighbor kid right across the street sells rebuilt engines online. He's a former world champion shifter kart driver. He trained one of the Andretti kids who is now got a sponsored ride. He won that world championship with broken ribs! He can't get a ride because his parents don't have a few million a year to throw at his career to get it started...
Kids a major talent. We chase each other around the back roads in the mountains on occasion. Him in his 350Z, me in my 240Z... It's poetry to watch him take a corner. He brakes so late if at all and he is on it and gone before you can blink...

As for Danica being not hard to look at, I have never seen her smile if she wasn't being paid to smile... That, by itself is so very unattractive about her...

Oh, and I just saw the news this morning. "Danica Crashes Out of Race"... There's a surprise!
URY914
OK Danica lovers, this one is for you.....


http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/our-country/d...-210401589.html
Spoke
Danica should take some of her racing prize money, get the tramp stamp removed and buy some implants.
URY914
QUOTE(Spoke @ Jul 30 2012, 06:30 PM) *

Danica should take some of her racing prize money, get the tramp stamp removed and buy some implants.


...and start making pornos.
Bullethead
QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 29 2012, 08:33 AM) *

Nationwide Series: Crash ends Danica Patrick's return to IMS

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120728/S...ck-s-return-IMS

“This guy is starting to piss me off,” Patrick angrily told her crew over the radio.


A moment later, she was out of the race.


“I don’t know what happened,” Patrick said after the race. “I got close. I might have tapped him, I’m not sure.” stromberg.gif


URY914
QUOTE(Bullethead @ Jul 30 2012, 08:26 PM) *

QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 29 2012, 08:33 AM) *

Nationwide Series: Crash ends Danica Patrick's return to IMS

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120728/S...ck-s-return-IMS

“This guy is starting to piss me off,” Patrick angrily told her crew over the radio.


A moment later, she was out of the race.


“I don’t know what happened,” Patrick said after the race. “I got close. I might have tapped him, I’m not sure.” stromberg.gif


"...I was texting my BFF and looked up and there he was. I got close. I might have tapped him, I'm not sure."
tracks914
I'm not a Danica fan or hater. I just know that in 4 years of stock car racing ovals (both dirt and pavement) I had good equipment, (because I built and maintained it myself) I won (heats and features) 76% of the time. (that's 1st place)
Could I keep up to her, I doubt it at first but I would like to go a few laps with her just to see if I measure up.
URY914
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2...as-race-results

Look at the reader's comments at the end of the page. This one is classic.....

"Pockrass actually outdid himself with this biased article. He got it wrong about how many times she was lapped. Two, not one. He also failed to report that Miss Lapped 17 Times has been lapped 17 times, has failed to finish in the lead lap in 7 of her 9 races for 2013 and has now lost 145 straight races. It adds up to her stellar records of 1-240 (career), 0-79 (NASCAR career), 0-9 (2013) and 68 Non Top 10 finishes.

As usual...excuses, excuses, excuses for Miss Lapped 17 Times. This time it's junk on the grill. Who's to blame for the next dismal performance? The Easter Bunny? The Tooth Fairy? Santa Claus?

Oh, and how ironic that she's bellyaching about drivers taking her out. Last year, she TWICE tried to take out opposing drivers and was actually glorified by the biased news media for one of those acts."

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bulitt
JPM better get in gear also. There are expiration dates on driving careers.
bcheney
Danica update: Last night she scored from center ice at her hometown Chicago Blackhawks game....maybe now all of you haters will come to terms with her talents with a stick..
iamchappy
QUOTE(bcheney @ May 1 2013, 06:25 AM) *

Danica update: Last night she scored from center ice at her hometown Chicago Blackhawks game....maybe now all of you haters will come to terms with her talents with a stick..


I wish she played for the Wild..
andys
NASCAR marketing, and varoius business journals unanimously agree that Danica is marketing gold on par with being considered super star level, and has made a significant impact on increasing viewership. This is not my opinion, but theirs. NASCAR commentators and drivers also agree that she is good for the sport, and are glad to have her. So while many question her talent, you can't under value the impact she has made.

In terms of talent, she lead many laps at the 2012 Nationwide race in Montreal before a componet failure took her out, and she ran in the top 5 all day at the 2012 Nationwide Road America race and got bumped on the last lap. In both these events, she was running with (and ahead of) the best roadracers in the business. Oh, and finishing 8th at Daytona and 12th at Martinsville wasn't a bad showing either. These are just the facts; you decide.

Andys
Eric_Shea
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her talents with a stick..


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bulitt
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URY914
Her few good finishs are a direct result of NASCAR looking the other way when it comes to post race inspections.
bcheney
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ May 1 2013, 02:18 PM) *

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her talents with a stick..


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Finally....I knew I could count on you!
naro914
She's a good driver. Not great, just good. But I don't begrudge her for all the media hype.

Just think of what it took for her to get where she is: first, MOST girls DO NOT grow up wanting to race cars. Out of the miniscule few that might even think about it, the chance of one having a family to support it emotionally AND financially is pretty slim. And even with support, desire, and finances, you STILL have to have enough talent to continue (see Milka Duno, who had desire and money backing but ZERO talent)

Since 2010, only about 23 drivers have won the 117 Sprint Cup races, out of over 100+ drivers that have entered. Even Mr. Popular Dale Jr has only won once in a few years...

To win in Nascar, you need to be on a top team, have perfect equipment, have talent, and have some luck. Half of all races since 2010 have been won by Hendrick or Joe Gibbs Racing... Deck is stacked against smaller teams winning, especially a rookie driver on a smaller team. Yes, Stewart Haas has won (who Danica races for) but most of those wins have been Tony Stewart, who is one of the top drivers in Nascar.

She's better than just about all of us. My only complaint is she left a race series I paid some attention to (IRL) and went to one I care zero about...
andys
QUOTE(URY914 @ May 1 2013, 01:40 PM) *

Her few good finishs are a direct result of NASCAR looking the other way when it comes to post race inspections.


You've made a statement of fact, so perhaps you're prepared to substatiate it with a link or news article to support this. If it's true, I sure want to know.

Andys
URY914
QUOTE(andys @ May 3 2013, 08:26 AM) *

QUOTE(URY914 @ May 1 2013, 01:40 PM) *

Her few good finishs are a direct result of NASCAR looking the other way when it comes to post race inspections.


You've made a statement of fact, so perhaps you're prepared to substatiate it with a link or news article to support this. If it's true, I sure want to know.

Andys


Yea right, I’m going to reveal my sources on a public forum. And do you really think NASCAR would want to see a story about this hit the news? The writer would be run off the road into a tree. They have their own version of the CIA to handle things like this. I’ve already said too much.
bcheney
QUOTE(naro914 @ May 2 2013, 11:19 PM) *

She's a good driver. Not great, just good. But I don't begrudge her for all the media hype.

Just think of what it took for her to get where she is: first, MOST girls DO NOT grow up wanting to race cars. Out of the miniscule few that might even think about it, the chance of one having a family to support it emotionally AND financially is pretty slim. And even with support, desire, and finances, you STILL have to have enough talent to continue (see Milka Duno, who had desire and money backing but ZERO talent)

Since 2010, only about 23 drivers have won the 117 Sprint Cup races, out of over 100+ drivers that have entered. Even Mr. Popular Dale Jr has only won once in a few years...

To win in Nascar, you need to be on a top team, have perfect equipment, have talent, and have some luck. Half of all races since 2010 have been won by Hendrick or Joe Gibbs Racing... Deck is stacked against smaller teams winning, especially a rookie driver on a smaller team. Yes, Stewart Haas has won (who Danica races for) but most of those wins have been Tony Stewart, who is one of the top drivers in Nascar.

She's better than just about all of us. My only complaint is she left a race series I paid some attention to (IRL) and went to one I care zero about...


Well said...I wonder who on this board is better than her? I think it pretty safe to say if you placed anyone on this board in her current NASCAR or a current Indycar and held a showdown at Daytona or the Glen they would not keep up with her on their best day.
bulitt
Shes good for the sport. Which I find particularly boring to watch even though I know it takes alot of talent to finish well. And racing balls out for 4 hours, thats crazy.

The more people diss her, the more I like her (I have two daughters). She doesn't seem to seek out the media, they come looking for her. And it appears she really loves what she does. How many young people dont have a clue what they want to do in life after 4 or 6 years of college?

She seems whiney at times, but then they all do at times, there is tremendous pressure to perform well and alot of people counting on her.

Whats nice about racing today- we as fans get to watch our heroes for a long, long time. Back in the seventies virtually every other formula1 race had a driver fatality. Imagine Michael Schumacher being killed in 1995 instead of the career he had. They completely lost the fan base. We get to blog about drivers for decades now!

Love her, hate her, her performance over time will write her story.
carr914
QUOTE(bulitt @ May 4 2013, 05:33 AM) *



Love her, hate her, her performance over time will write her story.


And her Story will be of a Whiny Bitchy Loser!

She has One (1) Win in over 10 Years of Racing! and that was a Fuel Mileage Fluke. And she has been with the BEST Teams with the BEST Equipment every step of the way.

I have met her and she is the Biggest Bitch on the Planet (she even beats out my ex-wife).

Is she good for the Sport - Yes. Is she the Best Woman Racer - No. I think she has created a Double-Edge sword for Young Girls who want to Race - it has created an Avenue, but people also see that Sex Sells, not Talent!

As far as someone from here beating her - I'm sure if you went back in time and gave some of us the Seat Time, we could beat her. Could we just step into a Nascraper or IndyCar tomorrow & beat her - No.

My son came in 2nd to her in a GoKart 15 Years ago after he had started a month earlier and she had years in a Kart. Racing Talent is nurtured.
GeorgeRud
Say what you will about her, she helps the marketing of NASCAR, and it is a business after all, with no pretense of being a pure sport. I think that years of 'debris on the backstretch' and other methods of 'helping the show' have made many folks doubt that it sometimes isn't a bit like professional wrestling. Ever wondered why the great Richard Petty somehow got his 200th win with an engine that 'somehow' was too big?

Read Smokey Yunick's book 'The Best Damn Garage in Town' for a whole lot more information on professional racing. It's a great eye opener.

That said, enjoy the show and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
URY914
Once AGAIN yes, she is better than anyone here. She should be. She’s a pro driver. If you read back through this thread I don’t think you’ll find anyone seriously thinking they are better than her. The problem is she is not better than other pro drivers and is getting paid not for her talent but for her image. It erodes the sport and further proves that this is less of a sport and more of a business. Race results used to matter to team owners. This has been the case in F1. Even if the driver would bring dollars to the team he still must have results. If the driver didn’t produce on race day another driver was found. Those days seem to be over.

I give her credit for one thing, she has taken her mediocre talent added in some bathing suit promo photos and she is laughing all the way to the bank. She is using the system and the system is using her.

If you are looking for female race drivers who get results, check out Ashley and Courtney Force. Here are two drivers that can be inspirational to our daughters. They actually win races, they both graduated college (both with degrees in communications, something DP could use) and they both look a whole lot better then DP.
Here is a shot of Courtney...

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bcheney
QUOTE(URY914 @ May 4 2013, 08:09 AM) *

Once AGAIN yes, she is better than anyone here. She should be. She’s a pro driver. If you read back through this thread I don’t think you’ll find anyone seriously thinking they are better than her. The problem is she is not better than other pro drivers and is getting paid not for her talent but for her image. It erodes the sport and further proves that this is less of a sport and more of a business. Race results used to matter to team owners. This has been the case in F1. Even if the driver would bring dollars to the team he still must have results. If the driver didn’t produce on race day another driver was found. Those days seem to be over.

I give her credit for one thing, she has taken her mediocre talent added in some bathing suit promo photos and she is laughing all the way to the bank. She is using the system and the system is using her.

If you are looking for female race drivers who get results, check out Ashley and Courtney Force. Here are two drivers that can be inspirational to our daughters. They actually win races, they both graduated college (both with degrees in communications, something DP could use) and they both look a whole lot better then DP.
Here is a shot of Courtney...

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Courtney Force (born June 20, 1988) is a Funny Car drag racer for John Force Racing. She is the youngest daughter of 15-time NHRA Funny Car national champion John Force and his wife Laurie Force. She is a graduate of Cal State Fullerton having majored in Communications.[1] On July 19, 2009 Courtney won her first National event in the Top Alcohol Dragster category at the 22nd annual NHRA Northwest Nationals in Seattle, Washington.[1] She ended up amassing enough points in that season to win the Top Alcohol Championship. In 2012, after her sister Ashley Force announced her retirement from competitive racing, Courtney became the fourth driver for John Force Racing, driving the Traxxas Ford Mustang, while at the same time, it was announced that Brittnay Force would handle the driving duties for a Top Fuel Dragster sponsored by Brandsource.

I am sure the Force sisters are great people and very talented/smart and professional. Their dad is prolific in the "business" and has afforded them every "advantage" in their career development. Racing is primarily about business and secondarily about sport. Top level drivers are definitely elite "atheletes" in every sense of the word..However, one question is how many top level drivers would go racing if there was no money in it? How many teams would be interested if there was no money in it? Money makes it all happen. All the driving talent in the world wouldn't make for a good "show" because the equipment would be so terrible and so slow no one would be interested. Danica is just another driver for us to talk about and follow. She stirs emotions because she has "dared" to compete in a business/sport that is dominated by men. Maybe you dont like the way she talks or the way she looks or the way she drives...One thing is for sure...she is working her ass off...is committed to her career, shows up for work, puts in her time and tries to improve under harsh circumstances and conditions...which is completely "admirable" in my book. I love hearing everyone chime in on this stuff. Thanks for always kicking in your opinions!!
URY914
^Brian, I think you have a future in politics. biggrin.gif
carr914
QUOTE(bcheney @ May 4 2013, 10:04 AM) *

QUOTE(URY914 @ May 4 2013, 08:09 AM) *



One thing is for sure...she is working her ass off...is committed to her career, shows up for work, puts in her time and tries to improve under harsh circumstances and conditions...which is completely "admirable" in my book.


I guess Cheating on her Husband is Admirable Too? confused24.gif
bcheney
QUOTE(carr914 @ May 4 2013, 11:02 PM) *

QUOTE(bcheney @ May 4 2013, 10:04 AM) *

QUOTE(URY914 @ May 4 2013, 08:09 AM) *



One thing is for sure...she is working her ass off...is committed to her career, shows up for work, puts in her time and tries to improve under harsh circumstances and conditions...which is completely "admirable" in my book.


I guess Cheating on her Husband is Admirable Too? confused24.gif


I missed that one...when did she cheat on her husband? Please give all the details so this thread remains fair and balanced:)
URY914
Google is your friend....."

Patrick's divorce papers, signed by a judge, were filed on April 17, but she's been dating rookie NASCAR driver Ricky Stenhouse Jr. for months."
Jgilliam914
Damn guys... Don't be judgin!! I am sure there are damn few people bound for Sainthood in this forum? She is a capable driver not great and not a back marker either! She is there for marketing purposes. Nascars viewership is way up since the beginning of the year. She does have a chance to win any restrictor plate race due to the fact Nascar owns the intakes on these cars. But look at Juan Pablo Montoya. Everyone here knows he is one HELL of a driver and this has translated into how many Cup wins? Not many. Cup driving is not easy. With the restrictions to parts that there is very little " outside the box thinking" to make your car better than anothers. Equipment breaks and too many aggressive moves by others can take out half the field every week. It is entertainment especially the last 10 laps. You try driving at high speed in extremely close competition for 3-4 hours and you will see what kind of athletes they actually are. I tip my hat to them all to get to that stage and are able to compete
Spoke
QUOTE(Jgilliam914 @ May 5 2013, 09:25 AM) *

She is there for marketing purposes.


I think this is the reason so many people have an issue with Danica. Or Danican't as I've seen her name butchered on some websites.

For the most part, racing is a competition and usually the best driver with the best equipment wins and gets the accolades.

Rarely does the 8th or 12th or 20th place driver get any attention. Or along those lines, the 4th place driver in the Indy 500 get their picture on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

Dan Wheldon who won the Indy 500 that year later turned up wearing a T-shirt with the phrase "Actually Won The Indy 500" on the front since the media was ogling Danica for the 4th place finish.

Danica is a product of our times where you don't have to do anything to be a media star like the Kardashians, Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie.

I was happy when she made the move from Indycar to Nascar as now the media frenzy following her can allow Indycar to get back to the business of racing.

I'm not sure if the added attention she brings really helps attendance at races or TV viewership.
naro914
Hmmmm....5 pages on a 914 forum discussing Danica Patrick and Nascar.

Yep, she/they have won...
bandjoey
http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7oAl/coca-cola-raci...amily-road-trip

Danica's NASCAR family trip. Proves she a real man! av-943.gif
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