dfelz
Jan 21 2013, 12:38 AM
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Jan 20 2013, 10:24 PM)
Right on. Thank you. Your car is coming along great. I saw you swapped front ends. When your ready let me know and i will come out and help you do a four wheel alignment. I did mine at home by using 4 jackstands and fishing line. It drives straight as an arrow. I did the camber with a protractor. We can aling your car in a few hours.
Thats awesome, thanks, I will definitely take you up on that when im ready (will save me $100!!)
My plan is to have this car finished enough to drive down to san diego where I'm from and where my parents still live for spring break (mid March.) So an alignment will be need just before that!
Also, side note, I will eventually be putting the car back to its original color, L 21E, Tangerine Orange, and am very excited for that when the time comes, i really like that color. I have the whole paint scheme worked out in my head. My rims are currently powder coated white from the factory (off a 924 turbo brumos edition) but i hate it, love the rims not the color, so i will get them re-powder coated some shade of gray, will go really well with the orange. will have black or grey interior and cant decide on the engine tin, either black, grey, or tangerine.....
hmmmmm
well thats all i have for now, need to start my homework, im really behind since i have spent every waking hour of saturday and sunday working on the car, wooops.
euro911
Jan 21 2013, 01:19 AM
... and post a want ad for the side shift components. Hopefully something will show up before you are ready to install the drive train into the 'new' car
dfelz
Jan 22 2013, 01:43 AM
Didnt get much done with the car today, since it was a three day weekend, monday became my sunday and i had a good amount of homework to do. BUT i did put the rear susp back on the '72, so it is now a full rolling car (and there is no e-brake conected, so once it starts rollin it aint gonna stop easily
) But i am one step closer to getting it out of my garage and getting my new babe, the 71 inside before next monday (whether man says rain is coming!)
Anyone have any ideas about the odd dulling of one of the pushrods, pictured a few posts up.....
jdlmodelt
Jan 22 2013, 08:11 AM
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Jan 20 2013, 11:24 PM)
Right on. Thank you. Your car is coming along great. I saw you swapped front ends. When your ready let me know and i will come out and help you do a four wheel alignment. I did mine at home by using 4 jackstands and fishing line. It drives straight as an arrow. I did the camber with a protractor. We can aling your car in a few hours.
DO you have a posting on here that describes the "at home" 4 wheel alignment?
James
Millerwelds
Jan 22 2013, 09:04 AM
Anyone have any ideas about the odd dulling of one of the pushrods, pictured a few posts up.....
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It is from the spring that holds the lifters in place. It was not installed perfectly and rubbed the pushrod. If there is no real wear / loss of material you should be fine to reuse it.
dfelz
Jan 22 2013, 09:44 AM
QUOTE(Millerwelds @ Jan 22 2013, 07:04 AM)
It is from the spring that holds the lifters in place. It was not installed perfectly and rubbed the pushrod. If there is no real wear / loss of material you should be fine to reuse it.
Cool, thanks for the info!
mrbubblehead
Jan 22 2013, 01:45 PM
QUOTE(jdlmodelt @ Jan 22 2013, 06:11 AM)
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Jan 20 2013, 11:24 PM)
Right on. Thank you. Your car is coming along great. I saw you swapped front ends. When your ready let me know and i will come out and help you do a four wheel alignment. I did mine at home by using 4 jackstands and fishing line. It drives straight as an arrow. I did the camber with a protractor. We can aling your car in a few hours.
DO you have a posting on here that describes the "at home" 4 wheel alignment?
James
Bummer. The website is gone. I'll keep looking. I gotta find it again.
dfelz
Jan 22 2013, 02:00 PM
Got the Rear wheels on! she's half way to being able to roll around. fitment with stock fenders and 205 tires is gonna be close
but i think it will fit just perfectly. Will be flaring front and rear eventually anyways.
mrbubblehead
Jan 22 2013, 02:08 PM
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Jan 22 2013, 11:45 AM)
QUOTE(jdlmodelt @ Jan 22 2013, 06:11 AM)
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Jan 20 2013, 11:24 PM)
Right on. Thank you. Your car is coming along great. I saw you swapped front ends. When your ready let me know and i will come out and help you do a four wheel alignment. I did mine at home by using 4 jackstands and fishing line. It drives straight as an arrow. I did the camber with a protractor. We can aling your car in a few hours.
DO you have a posting on here that describes the "at home" 4 wheel alignment?
James
Bummer. The website is gone. I'll keep looking. I gotta find it again.
Yup, the web site i used is gone. But this is the thread i found it it. This thread should give you a pretty good idea on how to do it. And the stock adjustment numbers should be in the Haynes manual.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...125788&st=0
sixnotfour
Jan 22 2013, 03:44 PM
I have one one of those wheels was new, now just sitting outside, If you really like those and I sell mark my 64 911 flywheel, I wll ship it to you.
dfelz
Jan 22 2013, 05:01 PM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 22 2013, 01:44 PM)
I have one one of those wheels was new, now just sitting outside, If you really like those and I sell mark my 64 911 flywheel, I wll ship it to you.
Sure, why not! Thanks
sixnotfour
Jan 22 2013, 10:50 PM
I saw Ray Scruggs win the Parade autocross years ago in his silver 914-6, I also watched the loser in his 914-6 protest, it was hilarious.
Home Alignment , By Ray Scruggs;
http://www.2l7registry.com/doc/georacing.pdf
dfelz
Jan 22 2013, 10:57 PM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 22 2013, 08:50 PM)
I saw Ray Scruggs win the Parade autocross years ago in his silver 914-6, I also watched the loser in his 914-6 protest, it was hilarious.
Home Alignment , By Ray Scruggs;
http://www.2l7registry.com/doc/georacing.pdfsweet thanks for the link!
euro911
Jan 22 2013, 11:25 PM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 22 2013, 01:44 PM)
I have one one of those wheels was new, now just sitting outside, If you really like those and I sell mark my 64 911 flywheel, I wll ship it to you.
Did you decide on a price Jeff?
mrbubblehead
Jan 22 2013, 11:59 PM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 22 2013, 08:50 PM)
I saw Ray Scruggs win the Parade autocross years ago in his silver 914-6, I also watched the loser in his 914-6 protest, it was hilarious.
Home Alignment , By Ray Scruggs;
http://www.2l7registry.com/doc/georacing.pdfShit! I looked for for hours for that today. COOL!
sixnotfour
Jan 23 2013, 12:16 AM
QUOTE(euro911 @ Jan 22 2013, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 22 2013, 01:44 PM)
I have one one of those wheels was new, now just sitting outside, If you really like those and I sell mark my 64 911 flywheel, I wll ship it to you.
Did you decide on a price Jeff?
one million dollars..............plus shipping
euro911
Jan 23 2013, 12:49 AM
How much ya think shipping might be?
dfelz
Jan 23 2013, 09:30 PM
SO I was able to switch out my two 914s and get the new one in the garage, without even having wheels on the front!! just used a jack to hold up and steer the front. Went surprisingly well, only took about 5min so that was good. It looks good in there
Although I am not quite at this point, i do have a question that needs to be addressed eventually. I have a FG rear deck lid, but its the racing one, so there are no supports or structures or mounting holes on the underside. So is there a way to mount it so that i can still have it on a hinge system, stock or not (would probably want to use a modern type of shock as apposed to a spring) but i know that i cant just bolt a bracket to it and call it good, there would be to much flex in the un-stability of having no support structure and it would crack the paint from flexing so much..... I know i could just have four deck lid pins, one at each corner, and no hinging action, but i really dont want to go that route. any ideas or anyone have experience with these types of FG pieces.
mocked up on the 72
underside
Thanks!
bigkensteele
Jan 23 2013, 10:24 PM
I think that it would take a hell of a lot of work to make that decklid work on hinges. If you really like it, it might be worth it, but if it were me, I would probably put it up for sale.
I have been paying close attention to this thread, but I missed how you got that broken bolt out of the suspension mount. What did you end up doing?
BTW - amazed at how much you have accomplished in 10 days! Having fun watching it happen.
dfelz
Jan 23 2013, 10:40 PM
QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Jan 23 2013, 08:24 PM)
I think that it would take a hell of a lot of work to make that decklid work on hinges. If you really like it, it might be worth it, but if it were me, I would probably put it up for sale.
I have been paying close attention to this thread, but I missed how you got that broken bolt out of the suspension mount. What did you end up doing?
BTW - amazed at how much you have accomplished in 10 days! Having fun watching it happen.
Thanks, I am trying to get this guy on the road by mid march, so there is a lot to be done
problem is my girl feels the opposite, she is amazed how little time i am putting into her, oops. its ok though she understands my passion, thankfully.
Oh ya, that bolt..... hehe. I didnt post what i did with that. I drilled it out, and am currently only running two susp console bolts on the DS. i knew it would be fine for the time being, but WILL fix prior to driving. I'm planning on just drilling a little more to make it up to the next size, tap it to an M12, order an M12 x 1.5 x 80 PT bolt and call it a day.
mrbubblehead
Jan 23 2013, 10:49 PM
Just in time David. It looks like it might rain. About that bolt, maybe an american size bolt might be closer in diameter so you dont have to hog it all the way out to 12mm. I wonder if a nutsert would be strong enuff? I think I have a 10mm nutsert tool.
mrbubblehead
Jan 23 2013, 10:50 PM
Or thru bolt it....
bigkensteele
Jan 23 2013, 11:01 PM
QUOTE(dfelz @ Jan 23 2013, 08:40 PM)
problem is my girl feels the opposite, she is amazed how little time i am putting into her, oops. its ok though she understands my passion, thankfully.
Relationships come and go, but good cars are there forever. Or is it the other way around? Hell, I can't remember!
Back when I got my first 914, I was single and had a bunch of time but no money. Now, I have a family and some money, but no time. I love this thread because it makes me realize that when I thought that I had no money, I really could have pulled off a decent driver, but I was intent on a beauty queen.
Get that thing back together and have fun with it.
dfelz
Jan 23 2013, 11:18 PM
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Jan 23 2013, 08:50 PM)
Or thru bolt it....
I thought of that too.... didnt really think about an insert though. I've never heard of "nutsert" kind of a funny word, makes the child in me giggle
Since I'm not familiar, my first question is with a 10mm "nutsert" (should always be in quotes so you know im laughing) is it meant to go in a damaged M10 and use a smaller bolt, or drill it out a little more put the "nutsert" in and use the original M10 bolt....?
dfelz
Jan 23 2013, 11:27 PM
QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Jan 23 2013, 09:01 PM)
QUOTE(dfelz @ Jan 23 2013, 08:40 PM)
problem is my girl feels the opposite, she is amazed how little time i am putting into her, oops. its ok though she understands my passion, thankfully.
Relationships come and go, but good cars are there forever. Or is it the other way around? Hell, I can't remember!
Back when I got my first 914, I was single and had a bunch of time but no money. Now, I have a family and some money, but no time. I love this thread because it makes me realize that when I thought that I had no money, I really could have pulled off a decent driver, but I was intent on a beauty queen.
Get that thing back together and have fun with it.
Oh im having fun even with it on jack stands!! I love this hands on shit.
Also the reason it's coming together relatively fast is because i had the first shell for over six months, and durring that time i was collecting parts and all that good stuff, and reading as much as i could about this little beauty of a car. And then i dumped that first shell (now posted in the FS section as of today) and got a way nicer shell that i could personally work with.
problem is i am completely out of money, recently started selling of parts i dont need that came with my shells. I actually need to call my parents and ask them to loan me some dough so i can finish the engine partial rebuild, thats pretty much the only thing i have left to buy. Once summer comes around and i am working at my internship in San Diego, i will pay them back! I hope they go for it, they know how much i love this project
mrbubblehead
Jan 24 2013, 12:20 AM
QUOTE(dfelz @ Jan 23 2013, 09:18 PM)
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Jan 23 2013, 08:50 PM)
Or thru bolt it....
I thought of that too.... didnt really think about an insert though. I've never heard of "nutsert" kind of a funny word, makes the child in me giggle
Since I'm not familiar, my first question is with a 10mm "nutsert" (should always be in quotes so you know im laughing) is it meant to go in a damaged M10 and use a smaller bolt, or drill it out a little more put the "nutsert" in and use the original M10 bolt....?
I'm sorry. Not nutsert but a timesert. I'll check if I have a 10mm kit. Its similar to a helicoil but waaaay better. After you check out the link, let me know if you wanna use it.
http://www.timesert.com/
dfelz
Jan 24 2013, 12:28 AM
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Jan 23 2013, 10:20 PM)
QUOTE(dfelz @ Jan 23 2013, 09:18 PM)
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Jan 23 2013, 08:50 PM)
Or thru bolt it....
I thought of that too.... didnt really think about an insert though. I've never heard of "nutsert" kind of a funny word, makes the child in me giggle
Since I'm not familiar, my first question is with a 10mm "nutsert" (should always be in quotes so you know im laughing) is it meant to go in a damaged M10 and use a smaller bolt, or drill it out a little more put the "nutsert" in and use the original M10 bolt....?
I'm sorry. Not nutsert but a timesert. I'll check if I have a 10mm kit. Its similar to a helicoil but waaaay better. After you check out the link, let me know if you wanna use it.
http://www.timesert.com/Those look cool! ya if you have one i would definitely be interested in giving it a try! thanks!
mrbubblehead
Jan 24 2013, 12:44 AM
Your in luck. I have a 10X1.0 kit and 10X1.25 kit. I don't remember the thread pitch you need so you'll have to check. Don't drill on the hole anymore. We will have to enlarge the hole an it take a special size. But I have the bit, its part of the kit. I have a few inserts but I dont think their long enuff. I think we should use the longest ones they make. They only cost a buck or two. Timesert is in Cali so if we got to order one they are only a day or 2 away. Other places sell the inserts so you can shop around. just make you get the steel ones. They come in aluminum too. When you figure out the pitch size, look at the timesert website for the part number. It will make googleing way easier.
Im glad I have the right kit. They are real lifesavers. especially when you strip an exhaust bolt on a sunday and have to drive your car to work on monday morning.... Or when you pull the friggin threads out when your changing spark plugs.
dfelz
Jan 26 2013, 11:34 PM
Havent updated in a few days...been sick
Also didnt get much of anything accomplished in the past few days, just a few small things here and there. One thing i did do today was finally unpack a box of goodies (that i actually got from danny hunter a few months ago.) I unpacked a FG rear 916 bumper and a FG 911 5 gauge pod dash. They are in pretty good condition and will only need minor amounts of repairs to make perfect. I held the bumper on to see if i could get a feel for the fit, it looks decent, but will need some fine tuning, as do all FG parts.
Question regarding the condition of my starter motor. Since the PO had that extra starter solenoid, it leads me to believe that either the whole unit is weak, or just the stock solenoid is week. Because even when trying to start the engine, with the extra one on there, it had a hard time turning it over, and went very slowly. Should i just replace the whole unit? new solenoid is about $60, rebuilt stock starter motor complete is about $110... I would like to take it apart first but i dont know what i would be looking for
Doug, thanks for looking and glad you have those kits, and in both sizes as well, I'll have to check what the pitch is. As far as getting the longest one they have, what about accounting for the fact that the hole is only partially threaded. The threads dont start until just under half way up..
Here are the pics of the new FG pieces.
Cheers
Kirmizi
Jan 27 2013, 10:40 AM
Before spending money on a new starter and/or solenoid, I'd suggest checking the wiring of the starting system, including the ignition switch and grounds.
Mike
dfelz
Jan 27 2013, 06:47 PM
QUOTE(Kirmizi @ Jan 27 2013, 08:40 AM)
Before spending money on a new starter and/or solenoid, I'd suggest checking the wiring of the starting system, including the ignition switch and grounds.
Mike
Will definitely do that thanks
I want to take apart the starter motor too, just sounds fun and i love taking things apart. I'll clean the points, but i dont know what else i would do except have fun putting it back together.
dfelz
Jan 30 2013, 01:20 PM
Accomplished a few things last night on the car.
First thing i did was take off all the old cracking and crumbly insulation material on the backside of the relay board. Once it was all off i checked continuity of all the wires, all were good! Then i applied two coats of new liquid electrical tape, i hope it holds up well, i may add another coat just to make sure.
After that i took the heads off the engine to inspect the piston tops, cylinders and valves. Bent two push rod tubes in the process, there goes $20. The inside of the cylinders look really good, can still see the honing lines. The piston tops look ok, no dings or anything like that, but they are SOOO dirty, so much carbon build up. And same with the heads, the valves are just covered in carbon. I know why this engine didnt want to start easily, the engine was running extremely rich and probably wasnt tuned correctly.
I need everyones opinion, I would like to save and reuse them, so how and with what can i clean the heads and piston tops. I would like to not remove the cylinders because i couldnt source rings on either pelican or AA, and would need a ring compressor. so whats your take....
Thanks
injunmort
Jan 30 2013, 02:46 PM
the heads, i would take to local machine shop and have them hot tanked. to clean piston crowns, take a piece of heavy guage solder and flatten with a coulple hammer blows. use this soft scraper to scrape carbon off with a liberal amount of carb cleaner. finish it with a good scrub with a scotchbrite pad. the soldier is much softer tan the pistons and wont marr them.
'73-914kid
Jan 30 2013, 03:44 PM
That thing was running RICH to get that much carbon deposited.. tank the heads, or soda blast them would be my recomendation..
Once its reassembled, id try to look into rejetting the carbs.. wideband AFR is your friend..
euro911
Jan 30 2013, 04:04 PM
Dave, I have a shitload of freshly plated push rod tubes here. Let me know how many you want (you can have a complete set of 8 if you want them)
dfelz
Jan 30 2013, 04:47 PM
I will have to look into purchasing an AFR! what does re-jetting entail, I have the rebuild kit for the carbs, will that do them justice?
Mark I will definitely take a few, Thanks! how much for a set of 8??
Also, i just calipered the cylinders and they are coming in at 96mm. Stock for a 1.7L is 90mm right?
Kirmizi
Jan 30 2013, 06:04 PM
96mm means you've got a "big bore" kit installed vs stock pistons.
Re-jetting is mostly a matter of pulling the emulsion tubes from the carb centers or idle jet holders from the sides, replacing the applicable jet and reassembling.
mrbubblehead
Jan 30 2013, 07:16 PM
hey david, if you wanna buy the soda your welcome to use my blasting cabinet. you could get all your blasting done in one day. carbs, pistons, cylinder heads. I can show you a couple of mods to do to those carbs also, before you put them back together....
'73-914kid
Jan 31 2013, 12:55 AM
Care to share those mods? I'm getting ready to do an all out carb re-jetting this weekend...
euro911
Jan 31 2013, 01:55 AM
QUOTE(dfelz @ Jan 30 2013, 02:47 PM)
I will have to look into purchasing an AFR! what does re-jetting entail, I have the rebuild kit for the carbs, will that do them justice?
(1) Mark I will definitely take a few, Thanks! how much for a set of 8??
(2) Also, i just calipered the cy linders and they are coming in at 96mm. Stock for a 1.7L is 90mm right?
(1) Either come by the shop and pick 'em up, or $10. shipping
(2) Check the stroke of the crank. If you have 96mm pistons and 66mm stroke, you have a 1911
... if 71mm stroke, you have a 2056
Dasnowman
Jan 31 2013, 02:12 AM
I know it looks like it's running rich but on the one set of heads looks like oil might be getting by the rings as well?
Did you see the engine running or did you do a compression test on it before you pulled it?
Might want to have a look at the rings are seated and lined up properly while it's torn down at this point.
dfelz
Jan 31 2013, 11:10 AM
QUOTE(euro911 @ Jan 30 2013, 11:55 PM)
QUOTE(dfelz @ Jan 30 2013, 02:47 PM)
I will have to look into purchasing an AFR! what does re-jetting entail, I have the rebuild kit for the carbs, will that do them justice?
(1) Mark I will definitely take a few, Thanks! how much for a set of 8??
(2) Also, i just calipered the cy linders and they are coming in at 96mm. Stock for a 1.7L is 90mm right?
(1) Either come by the shop and pick 'em up, or $10. shipping
(2) Check the stroke of the crank. If you have 96mm pistons and 66mm stroke, you have a 1911
... if 71mm stroke, you have a 2056
Will you be at the dawn patrol run this Saturday? I can get them then.
I will take measurements of the stroke to find out! Ill keep my fingers crossed for a 2056!
dfelz
Jan 31 2013, 11:43 AM
QUOTE(Dasnowman @ Jan 31 2013, 12:12 AM)
I know it looks like it's running rich but on the one set of heads looks like oil might be getting by the rings as well?
Did you see the engine running or did you do a compression test on it before you pulled it?
Might want to have a look at the rings are seated and lined up properly while it's torn down at this point.
That would actually make sense if one of the rings were broken, cause after I ran it the next day I noticed a puddle of oil on the ground. I'm gonna have to take the cylinders and pistons off to clean them anyways so I will inspect all the rings then.
Where is a good source for purchasing new rings?
euro911
Jan 31 2013, 04:44 PM
QUOTE(dfelz @ Jan 31 2013, 09:10 AM)
Will you be at the dawn patrol run this Saturday? I can get them then.
Probably not this w/e
Maybe someone else from down this way can grab them from me on their way up there
'73-914kid
Jan 31 2013, 04:54 PM
Call AA performance. Theres a good chance your big bore kit was from them originally. They will sell you a set of hastings rings i bet. Theyre off the I-60, west of cpp a little ways, so it might be worth the drive to go pick them up.
dfelz
Jan 31 2013, 04:55 PM
QUOTE(euro911 @ Jan 31 2013, 02:44 PM)
QUOTE(dfelz @ Jan 31 2013, 09:10 AM)
Will you be at the dawn patrol run this Saturday? I can get them then.
Probably not this w/e
Maybe someone else from down this way can grab them from me on their way up there
If someone is right there in your area and is going that would be cool, but if not i can just grab them another time. I have a good amount of work to do prior to putting it all back together so we have time before i will need them.
Thanks
dfelz
Jan 31 2013, 05:06 PM
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Jan 30 2013, 05:16 PM)
hey david, if you wanna buy the soda your welcome to use my blasting cabinet. you could get all your blasting done in one day. carbs, pistons, cylinder heads. I can show you a couple of mods to do to those carbs also, before you put them back together....
Doug, definitely forgot to respond to you, my bad. Thanks for the offer but i dont really want to blast any piece that will see the inside of the engine. You can never git it ALL out, and the last thing i want is sand floating around and getting in my cam bearings
, that would be a bad situation.
I am gonna take the parts to the parts washer at school and see what i can do...
euro911
Jan 31 2013, 05:27 PM
Soda (baking powder) won't hurt the internals, not like sand and glass bead would.
NEVER NEVER glass bead a case(or any other part that will see fuel or oil) unless you know absolutely for sure you have every opening sealed so tight, that a gnat's fart won't get in or out.
zambezi
Jan 31 2013, 10:49 PM
Large hose clamps can be used for a ring compressor when reinstalling the pistons into the cylinders.
euro911
Jan 31 2013, 11:14 PM
... or one of these (oil filter removal tool)
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