New white brake boards with comparison between black and white clips.
Comparison of stock setup (more black is visible at bottom of brake light bucket) and new white brake board with "silver" clips.
I tried a "chrome" paint on the LH clip set and a "flat aluminum" paint on the RH clip set. Both were better than white, but the flat aluminum makes the clips nearly disappear. You'd really have to know they were there—and look for them, too.
Into the weeds? Sure, but it might be interesting for those who want an appearance that's as close to factory as possible with a significant safety upgrade.
I tried a "chrome" paint on the LH clip set and a "flat aluminum" paint on the RH clip set. Both were better than white, but the flat aluminum makes the clips nearly disappear. You'd really have to know they were there—and look for them, too.
Into the weeds? Sure, but it might be interesting for those who want an appearance that's as close to factory as possible with a significant safety upgrade.
Nice job Pete. That takes an already outstanding product and improves on it. All of Spoke's lights are on my list. 
@horizontally-opposed
Pete, thanks for evaluating this. I think the white filament will work for the front turnsignals with white PCB. I can get silver or gray filament for the rear lights.
Pete, thanks for evaluating this. I think the white filament will work for the front turnsignals with white PCB. I can get silver or gray filament for the rear lights.
QUOTE(anderssj @ Feb 14 2021, 01:43 PM) 
QUOTE(Spoke @ Aug 2 2020, 08:30 PM)
I'm updating the Euro front turnsignals to add more white LEDs. Recently I did a brake light for an MG. It was a tiny board and I jammed 48 LEDs on to it. That got me thinking about the 914 Euro front turnsignals.
The current design has 21 white LEDs and the board is designed for both Euro with 21 white and 48 amber LEDs as well as the US configuration with all amber LEDs.
I wanted to jam as many white LEDs as possible where they would all shine through the clear part of the Euro lens. The first design is V7 below with 33 white LEDs. This design is completely routed and ready for the fab house.
Upon further review, I wanted to jam even more white LEDs on the board. One thing I noticed about the board and the Euro lens, was that I could see the first row of amber LEDs through the clear portion of the lens. That means I could add another row of white LEDs and they would shine through the clear part of the lens. This design is shown below as V8 and has 42 white LEDs. Twice as many as the current design.
Even though the V7 design is ready for fabrication, I think I want to do the V8 design with more LEDs.
Still need to do the final layout for this board.
@rmital Ray, this means your front turnsignals will be delayed until I finish the layout, get the board fabricated and assembled. Sorry to make you wait but it should be well worth it.
V7 - 33 White LEDs
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V8 - 42 White LEDs
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Spoke,The current design has 21 white LEDs and the board is designed for both Euro with 21 white and 48 amber LEDs as well as the US configuration with all amber LEDs.
I wanted to jam as many white LEDs as possible where they would all shine through the clear part of the Euro lens. The first design is V7 below with 33 white LEDs. This design is completely routed and ready for the fab house.
Upon further review, I wanted to jam even more white LEDs on the board. One thing I noticed about the board and the Euro lens, was that I could see the first row of amber LEDs through the clear portion of the lens. That means I could add another row of white LEDs and they would shine through the clear part of the lens. This design is shown below as V8 and has 42 white LEDs. Twice as many as the current design.
Even though the V7 design is ready for fabrication, I think I want to do the V8 design with more LEDs.
Still need to do the final layout for this board.
@rmital Ray, this means your front turnsignals will be delayed until I finish the layout, get the board fabricated and assembled. Sorry to make you wait but it should be well worth it.
V7 - 33 White LEDs
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V8 - 42 White LEDs
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Thanks for your work on the LED lights! The brake light boards are GREAT--as the others said, they provide a huge improvement in visibility and safety.
Is the latest version of the front Euro turn signals (V8 w/42 white LEDs?) available yet? I've got a tax return burning a hole in my pocket
Thanks!
Steve A-
@Spoke
Just checking in to see if the V8 front Euro lights are getting close. When they are, I'll have a pair of V7 Euros with black PCB available for someone else at a discount.
QUOTE(drem914 @ Mar 20 2021, 11:37 AM)
Just checking in to see if the V8 front Euro lights are getting close. When they are, I'll have a pair of V7 Euros with black PCB available for someone else at a discount.
Same here, I use them as marker lights when driving for more visibility
QUOTE(drem914 @ Mar 20 2021, 02:37 PM)
Just checking in to see if the V8 front Euro lights are getting close. When they are, I'll have a pair of V7 Euros with black PCB available for someone else at a discount.
@drem914
Thanks for the reminder. Yes, I have the new Euro front lights with 42 white LEDs in black and white. The price is the same as before.
I have 2 sets of white Euro front lights with 21 white LEDs which I will put on the Discount Corner page. The price for these 2 sets will be $125.
Now that I have brake and rear turnsignal boards in white, I'm adding reverse LED boards in white as well.
@Spoke
So orders placed on your site for the euro front turn signals set up will be V8 and not v7 correct?
FYI order placed.
So orders placed on your site for the euro front turn signals set up will be V8 and not v7 correct?
FYI order placed.
Please count me in on the Euro w/blanking
I would like to have both front turn and rear turn and brake.
Looking forward to receiving these for my build.
Thank you.
72' 914 project.
Mike& Shelley
I would like to have both front turn and rear turn and brake.
Looking forward to receiving these for my build.
Thank you.
72' 914 project.
Mike& Shelley
Welcome to 914 world Mike!
(another Central Iowa region member!)
(another Central Iowa region member!)
QUOTE(Spoke @ Mar 21 2021, 10:39 AM)
Yes, all further front turnsignal Euro boards will have 42 white LEDs (V8).
Spoke,
Thanks for the update--I just placed an order for Version 8 of the Euro front turn signal boards.
And thanks for the good work on these!
Steve A-
Order for v8 boards placed also
Hi Jerry,
Would you happen to have a comparison picture between the two versions of the Euro fronts? I have a set of the older ones but may upgrade to V8 .
Would you happen to have a comparison picture between the two versions of the Euro fronts? I have a set of the older ones but may upgrade to V8 .
QUOTE(Luke M @ Mar 22 2021, 12:08 PM)
Hi Jerry,
Would you happen to have a comparison picture between the two versions of the Euro fronts? I have a set of the older ones but may upgrade to V8 .
Eric,
I'll take some better pictures this weekend. Here's what the difference will look like. The old boards had white lines and the new boards have a solid white appearance. The light output is about 50% more intensity.
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@spoke - those look good.....may need to upgrade from the early version I have.
Are those on a white or black board?
QUOTE(Spoke @ Mar 23 2021, 04:21 AM)
QUOTE(Luke M @ Mar 22 2021, 12:08 PM)
Hi Jerry,
Would you happen to have a comparison picture between the two versions of the Euro fronts? I have a set of the older ones but may upgrade to V8 .
Eric,
I'll take some better pictures this weekend. Here's what the difference will look like. The old boards had white lines and the new boards have a solid white appearance. The light output is about 50% more intensity.
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Yup I want the V8 now. I'll pm you later.
Thanks,
QUOTE(drem914 @ Mar 23 2021, 03:29 PM)
Are those on a white or black board?
@drem914
The new white/amber front turnsignals come in both white or black. Instead of making one PCB that can be white/amber or all amber I've made 2 separate boards that are white/amber and all amber. This makes both boards simpler to assemble and the white/amber have twice as many (42 vs 21) white LEDs. The new boards are the same price as the old boards.
The old 21 white LED boards have been taken out of circulation although I built 2 sets of the 21 white LED boards. These two board sets are on the Discount Corner now.
I've had a couple of folks who purchased the older boards with 21 white LEDs step up to the new 42 white LED boards. They should be able to sell their old boards for a good price. I will honor any warranty or damages to these boards to the new owners for their piece of mind. I've had so few boards come back for issues that I will repair/replace any boards that folks purchased for free regardless of when they were purchased.
A small box arrived in the mail today (THANKS Jerry!) 
Version 8 of the front boards from Spokeworks.com.
Installation is easy-peasy--to the point I thought pictures unnecessary. The most difficult part was getting my big mitt into the front housing to install the base.
That said, here's a picture showing the new LED parking light (passenger side) compared to the old incandescent parking light (driver side):
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And yes, they're both "on."
Best mod since I've done since installing Jerry's brake light boards!
Version 8 of the front boards from Spokeworks.com.
Installation is easy-peasy--to the point I thought pictures unnecessary. The most difficult part was getting my big mitt into the front housing to install the base.
That said, here's a picture showing the new LED parking light (passenger side) compared to the old incandescent parking light (driver side):
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And yes, they're both "on."
Best mod since I've done since installing Jerry's brake light boards!
@anderssj wow what a difference!
I live off a country highway so visibility of my 914 to other drivers is a big thing, got my little box too and updated my older version to the newer boards, check out the density of the white LEDs compared to the previous iteration, the pics do not do them justice:
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Bravo @Spoke another winning setup! The white 3D printed parts are also a good move, makes the board even more seamless under the lens
I live off a country highway so visibility of my 914 to other drivers is a big thing, got my little box too and updated my older version to the newer boards, check out the density of the white LEDs compared to the previous iteration, the pics do not do them justice:
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Bravo @Spoke another winning setup! The white 3D printed parts are also a good move, makes the board even more seamless under the lens
My box showed up today also and will swap out the old for new on Friday.
I installed my Spokeworksled.com tail/brake lights tonight. Easy to install and much more visible. I felt like I was risking my life every time I drove in the rain before the upgrade. Great product!
Well, I've joined the club. Got these yesterday, installed them this morning.
@spoke
Can I add front euro with blanking (does this mean the white portion turns off when you activate a directional) and not effect the dash light if I keep incandescent bulbs in the rear?
Can I add front euro with blanking (does this mean the white portion turns off when you activate a directional) and not effect the dash light if I keep incandescent bulbs in the rear?
QUOTE(BENBRO02 @ Aug 16 2022, 05:33 PM)
@spoke
Can I add front euro with blanking (does this mean the white portion turns off when you activate a directional) and not effect the dash light if I keep incandescent bulbs in the rear?
@BENBRO02
In general, converting to LED turnsignals will mess with your flasher relay. Do you have an early (separate L and R indicators) or late (single L/R indicator) tach? In either case, when you change to LED turnsignals, the flasher relay will not behave properly with the tach indicators. You need to swap out the OEM flasher relay with a modified EP26 LED-compatible flasher relay.
About the Euro front turnsignals, yes the white LEDs shut off when the turnsignal is active on that side. The Euro front turnsignals drop right into the US bucket although you do need a Euro lens with the clear bottom. Besides an LED-compatible flasher, all other bulbs can be incandescent including the tach indicators. I still run incandescent tach indicators.
QUOTE(Spoke @ Aug 16 2022, 08:03 PM)
QUOTE(BENBRO02 @ Aug 16 2022, 05:33 PM)
@spoke
Can I add front euro with blanking (does this mean the white portion turns off when you activate a directional) and not effect the dash light if I keep incandescent bulbs in the rear?
@BENBRO02
In general, converting to LED turnsignals will mess with your flasher relay. Do you have an early (separate L and R indicators) or late (single L/R indicator) tach? In either case, when you change to LED turnsignals, the flasher relay will not behave properly with the tach indicators. You need to swap out the OEM flasher relay with a modified EP26 LED-compatible flasher relay.
About the Euro front turnsignals, yes the white LEDs shut off when the turnsignal is active on that side. The Euro front turnsignals drop right into the US bucket although you do need a Euro lens with the clear bottom. Besides an LED-compatible flasher, all other bulbs can be incandescent including the tach indicators. I still run incandescent tach indicators.
Thanks for your explanation. I have a late tach
Just a quick bump and some praise for Spoke and his LED kits. He makes items to order. My package arrived early from his shipping estimate.
I outfitted all of my car (less fog lights) in less than an hour today. Everything was as simple as could be. The improved lighting performance is a huge safety upgrade for our little cars, IMO.
Thanks, @spoke!
I outfitted all of my car (less fog lights) in less than an hour today. Everything was as simple as could be. The improved lighting performance is a huge safety upgrade for our little cars, IMO.
Thanks, @spoke!
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