DRPHIL914
Jan 4 2023, 10:03 AM
QUOTE(Drex @ Jan 3 2023, 07:42 PM)
my son bought me the 914-4 Haynes Repair Manual for Christmas
been looking through it
is there a single best reference book on 914 restorations?
Drex
several, here is one: Restorers guide to authenticity
https://www.amazon.com/914-6-Porsche-Restor...y/dp/0929758293Good Luck! -
also a former Iowa resident, born and raised in southern Mn spent a lot of time growing up around Clear Lake and Okaboji, spent 4 years in Davenport in grad school and lived in Red Oak for 3 years before moving to SC 30 years ago. I miss the hunting and fishing but not the snow/cold!.
Looking forward to seeing you get this project and return it to the road.
Phil
SKL1
Jan 4 2023, 11:04 AM
Always good to get a 914 back on the road!
And nice to see some decent ones (and some not so decent) on BAT lately... fun to follow them and listen to some of the comments, though nothing beats 914world!
Drex
Jan 4 2023, 02:50 PM
I will be trailering it back
Will probably just use regular tie down straps
What is the best way to attach these to the 914
Thanks
Drex
Drex
Jan 8 2023, 03:22 PM
Hello
Figured out how to add an avatar
It is a smaller version of this picture
of me by my two WW II jeeps
Haven't heard about the 914 yet
hope to in the near future
Will keep you updated
Drex
SKL1
Jan 9 2023, 08:54 PM
Well, well Drex. PM sent.
We actually know each other from "way" back. Hope you can get the car. I'm sure you can bring it back to life!
Drex
Feb 5 2023, 03:48 PM
We're making progress in buying the 914!
Judge to make decision in the near future.
BTW
Is there a good article or You Tube video
on converting a FI to Carb?
Thanks
Drex
SKL1
Feb 5 2023, 04:23 PM
Oh boy Dave, you opened up a can of worms there!! I have Webers on both my 914's though there is a WIDE difference of opinion here about FI and carbs.
Do a search here and you should find many threads on the subject.
If I was doing it over I'd consider one of the new kits that does FI with throttle bodies that give the look of carbs with the advantage of FI...
Good luck!!!
r_towle
Feb 5 2023, 07:10 PM
1st book
r_towle
Feb 5 2023, 07:10 PM
2nd book
r_towle
Feb 5 2023, 07:11 PM
3rd book
r_towle
Feb 5 2023, 07:15 PM
If you are new to aircooled you might also benefit from some VW books on the type 4.
Also, “how to keep your vw alive” is sort of mandatory old school reading, humor added.
If you have a six, lean on the /6 aircooled books on pelican parts.
Also, fir your adventure there are many vendors in the member-vendors forum.
You can buy almost 85% of the parts you need from these vendors.
The rest of the things you might need is why we all have at least two 914s
rick 918-S
Feb 5 2023, 07:50 PM
QUOTE(Drex @ Feb 5 2023, 03:48 PM)
We're making progress in buying the 914!
Judge to make decision in the near future.
BTW
Is there a good article or You Tube video
on converting a FI to Carb?
Thanks
Drex
ya don't do it. The cam is designed for FI. Unless you split the case and change out the cam you will be challenged attempting to run lean enough at idle and low RPM's and rich enough at Rev to keep from dropping valve seats from combustion heat. This is not a Beetle designed to run on a single flush of the toilet. Some have had limited success but I would advise against it.
Drex
Feb 6 2023, 04:02 PM
I'd like to leave original i.e FI
are parts readily available if i went this route?
Drex
PanelBilly
Feb 6 2023, 07:30 PM
If the car will need extensive work, think about making a hot rod. There are so many options. Suby power or LS with Boxster trans. If it’s never going to be a perfect show car again, then open your mind to make it your own creation.
Drex
Feb 10 2023, 03:03 PM
thanks for the book titles
if it comes with FI
I'll probably leave it so
and hope it works okay
have been busy reading
all the technical articles
here's a picture of my 911 with my dad circa
JeffBowlsby
Feb 10 2023, 05:21 PM
QUOTE(Drex @ Feb 6 2023, 02:02 PM)
I'd like to leave original i.e FI
are parts readily available if i went this route?
Drex
Yes. Everything is available.
Drex
Feb 23 2023, 11:28 AM
Good News!
(Not sure my wife thinks so)
but the judge approved my offer!
Plan to pick up the 914 this coming Sunday
We received 1/4" of ice last night
and the temperature was about 5 F this am
but Sunday is supposed to be 51 F and nice.
Will have to make 2 trips as a parts car
come with it.
I've read the threads on endoscopes
to inspect the cylinders.
Seems the consensus is to buy
a cheap unit that attaches to one's cell phone.
But this wouldn't be able to see the valves, or would it?
Thanks for all your help
Will post pictures I.N.F.
Drex
SKL1
Feb 23 2023, 10:32 PM
Congrats Dave- will be watching the progress.
Shoulda kept the 911!!!
Drex
Feb 27 2023, 05:37 AM
Picked up 914 yesterday
Made it home okay
Serial Number 4712902617
Serial Number of parts car is 4712915293
More pics later
Drex
Drex
Feb 27 2023, 05:41 AM
In garage
the rear end sits very low to the ground
is this due to deflated shocks?
Drex
rick 918-S
Feb 27 2023, 06:04 AM
Did I mention that car is Willow.
SKL1
Feb 27 2023, 11:22 AM
Sagging rear end pretty common- weak rear springs. Easily fixed- add it to the list!
vintagethunder
Feb 27 2023, 11:29 AM
Don't buy KYB shocks!
Root_Werks
Feb 27 2023, 11:33 AM
Love the color! Keep us posted on the progress.
Drex
Feb 28 2023, 05:44 PM
Leave tomorrow morning
to pickup the parts car
Plan to completely tear it apart for parts
and sell the ones I don't need
Here is a picture of it
Other than the engine
what are the major things
worth saving?
Again, appreciate all your expertise
Drex
SKL1
Feb 28 2023, 09:28 PM
Might be able to save the gas tank and some of the suspension pieces, and the wheels/tires to use at some point to help move the chassis if re-doing the wheels you're going to actually use.
Doubt much more as that looks like it is about to fold in half...
DRPHIL914
Mar 1 2023, 07:49 AM
QUOTE(Drex @ Feb 28 2023, 06:44 PM)
Leave tomorrow morning
to pickup the parts car
Plan to completely tear it apart for parts
and sell the ones I don't need
Here is a picture of it
Other than the engine
what are the major things
worth saving?
Again, appreciate all your expertise
Drex
lots of stuff to take out, the rear glass and the front windshield, suspension parts,
brake calipers a-arms and rear control arms usually worth saving can be cleaned up and re-powder coated and made new, interior if the back pad foam is in good condition it can be recovered, they dont make that foam anymore. maybe the headlight buckets, rear trunk lid hood lid, dash frame interior , gauge cluster, etc etc
Drex
Mar 1 2023, 12:58 PM
Ran into a little glitch this morning...
My F350 broke down heading down to the car!!
Had to leave my truck and trailer at a Ford Dealership
and bring a loner car home!
F350 symptoms
Sudden loss of power
Check engine light on
Idle terrible
Sounds like it is running on 2 or 3 cylinders
If I shut engine off
It restarts fine and runs fine for a few seconds
Any ideas?
Any rate
Hopefully they will fix my truck
and i'll drive back, pickup truck n trailer
and then pickup car
Drex
Drex
Mar 3 2023, 06:21 PM
Well
an exhaust temperature sensor
replacement did no good to fix my F350
Now their replacing the electronics
that attach to the valve cover gasket!
Supposed to be done Monday afternoon
so am planning to pick up parts car
Wednesday
Drex
930cabman
Mar 4 2023, 06:10 AM
QUOTE(Drex @ Mar 3 2023, 07:21 PM)
Well
an exhaust temperature sensor
replacement did no good to fix my F350
Now their replacing the electronics
that attach to the valve cover gasket!
Supposed to be done Monday afternoon
so am planning to pick up parts car
Wednesday
Drex
It doesn't stop, being in the world of 914's adds to the confusion, but it's often fun
Drex
Mar 8 2023, 07:00 PM
Finally got my F350 fixed
Required two valve cover gaskets being replaced
Houston....we have a problem!!!!!
with the parts car that is
Had a heck of a time getting it off the trailer
being's the bottom had dropped out
....but with jacks and two by fours and my
trusty winch...we got it off and into my garage
Drex
krazykonrad
Mar 8 2023, 07:45 PM
That’ll buff right out!
930cabman
Mar 9 2023, 06:12 AM
QUOTE(krazykonrad @ Mar 8 2023, 08:45 PM)
That’ll buff right out!
No it won't, don't get the poor guys hopes up too much
Dion
Mar 9 2023, 06:35 AM
Best of luck with the project Dave, love the Willow Green…. Liking those WWII Jeeps as well!
Drex
Mar 10 2023, 10:24 AM
Do you all recommend use the
Special tangerine racing plate
to remove the engine?
or is there an easier way
which doesn't cost $135?
Thanks
Drex
krazykonrad
Mar 10 2023, 10:51 AM
There is, but I'm willing to bet that your next thought after the engine and transmission rolls off the jack and on to you or your friend isn't going to be "I'm still glad I saved that $135."
vintagethunder
Mar 10 2023, 03:19 PM
There are two thoughts on dropping the engine. One is to disconnect all but the last four bolts, jack it up high, secure with jack stands, add a 4x4 or 6x6 to the top of your jack (or the Tangerine plate), remove last four bolts then very carefully wiggle and lower the engine/transaxle.
The other way is to disconnect everything but the last four bolts, take the rear wheels off, drop the car down low until the engine is on a furniture dolly (small size, $10 at Harbor freight), take out the last four bolts, then raise the car. Put blocks in appropriate places so the chassis will not be allowed to drop too far. Two floor jacks and a buddy are helpful.
Both require you to check clearance of multiple parts multiple times. I seem to recall the injectors are one of them.
I have only used the second method. Like many mechanical things, the first time is the hardest. Next time will probably take 1/4th the time.
Note: if you are using a Quickjack hydraulic device, it will not lift a car from the extreme down (wheels off) position, even a relatively light 914 without engine and transaxle without some help from a jack.
There is a great 914 engine removal checklist somewhere out there on the internets was was extremely helpful for this first timer. Take lots of pics and sketch out and label the vacuum and fuel lines, and electrical connections. There are diagrams out there for the first two.
Good luck! Let us know how it goes!
Superhawk996
Mar 10 2023, 03:54 PM
QUOTE(Drex @ Mar 10 2023, 11:24 AM)
Do you all recommend use the
Special tangerine racing plate
to remove the engine?
or is there an easier way
which doesn't cost $135?
Thanks
Drex
Best $135 I ever spent and I’ve dropped the engine lots of times without one. Once you have one you don’t regret it. They always sell quickly on the classifieds when listed.
Use as needed - get most of your money back when done with it. Win - win.
Drex
Mar 10 2023, 04:22 PM
have car all jacked up to remove engine
followed the 914OWorld technical article
to prepare this to be done.
car kinda looks like the sinking titanic!
i did order the tangerine plate tool
i think i could have done it with the floor jack
and built up blocks on both sides of the engine
while i wait for the tool to arrive
i'll continue to remove parts in the front trunk area
Drex
930cabman
Mar 10 2023, 04:33 PM
You may consider cutting the car in half and working from there. Nothing connecting the front and rear can be salvageable anyway
seanpaulmc
Mar 10 2023, 08:07 PM
I’d be in for that frunk floor if you don’t need it and it’s in salvageable condition.
Thanks,
Sean
QUOTE(Drex @ Feb 28 2023, 06:44 PM)
Leave tomorrow morning
to pickup the parts car
Plan to completely tear it apart for parts
and sell the ones I don't need
Here is a picture of it
Other than the engine
what are the major things
worth saving?
Again, appreciate all your expertise
Drex
Drex
Mar 11 2023, 09:37 AM
i'm having a little trouble figuring out how to
disconnect the shifting linkage just in front of the engine
the how article shows a later model 914
Drex
Drex
Mar 11 2023, 04:12 PM
i found this picture at:
https://zyyz.com/motorsport/project_914_02_24.htmthank you for whoever posted it
the credit is your's, not mine
i think it illustrates the shift linkage that is in my parts car
that i'm taking apart
i'm just not sure how to go about it
it needs to be removed before I drop the engine
where does the other end of the short piece go that's at the very bottom go?
anxiously awaiting my tangerine plate tool
thanks for any input
Drex
Drex
Mar 12 2023, 08:18 AM
Figured out shift linkage removal
Was pretty simple
Haven't tackled the gear shift lever linkage yet
krazykonrad
Mar 13 2023, 08:36 PM
The gear shift linkage can stay in the car until the engine is out. It’s a lot easier to remove once the engine is out. And, if it’s in good working order, no need to risk dislodging the clutch tube by pulling it out.
Drex
Mar 14 2023, 03:49 AM
Krazy
i'm not quite following you on this
are you saying that i could have detached
the linkage at the firewall and then lowered the engine?
i'm waiting for the lift plate and the M8 triple square bit
Drex
krazykonrad
Mar 14 2023, 08:50 AM
QUOTE(Drex @ Mar 14 2023, 01:49 AM)
Krazy
i'm not quite following you on this
are you saying that i could have detached
the linkage at the firewall and then lowered the engine?
i'm waiting for the lift plate and the M8 triple square bit
Drex
Tell you what, let me take a look at mine when I get home so I don't tell you wrong.
krazykonrad
Mar 14 2023, 05:00 PM
QUOTE(krazykonrad @ Mar 14 2023, 06:50 AM)
Tell you what, let me take a look at mine when I get home so I don't tell you wrong.
Yes, my shift rod is still in the car.
Click to view attachment
krazykonrad
Mar 14 2023, 05:01 PM
Sorry. Sideways
JeffBowlsby
Mar 14 2023, 05:24 PM
There is another way to drop the drivetrain that is safe, a bit slower than the Tangerine plate. 2 floor jacks reduce the time needed, and jackstands.
Pull rear wheels, lower the car, locating and resting the drivetrain over a furniture dolly. Chassis is supported on lowered jack stands.
Unbolt the front engine bar (2 bolts), and two rear trans supports (4 bolts)
Use 2 all-thread rods about 18 in long, with washers/wing nuts, one at each front engine bar attachment point.
DISCONNECT THE TRANNY GROUND STRAP
Raise the chassis off the drivetrain.
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