I do remember WCR 2005, Howard (r.i.p.) and 914world put on a blast at the old Paramount Ranch Raceway complete with the In+Out Hamburger
18 wheeler
I didn't get a chance to meet you that day...I was checking out all of the cars as well
Your opinions here on world are well respected by me, and I'm honored that you dig my ride .
So now let's all get in the think tank and come up with a good catch phrase for our trick little panzers !
Marty

Green grass and high tides forever!

I also like M Gruppe

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We should be 1000% opposed to a special 'gruppe', special stickers, special name , special identity unless its very informal, because its exclusionary, and the opposite of what 914s are about.

What next, a separate website, special jacket, special tattooes, secret handshake known only to those that belong?

Or have no rules and let everybody in.

FO9O Gruppe

(Fuck Off 911 Owner)

The secret handshake could be pulling your pockets out showing that their empty.

I think the fad of walking around with one's pants pockets pulled out already passed several years ago

I thought the term NARP kinda summed it up- coined by others but taken up seriously by modded 914 owners as well as our purist brethren. I like it because it says it all.

Maybe you can only call a 914 an "outlaw" if it has 356 fenders and bodywork?

Most 914 projects end up being a modernization on the platform, like Mike B's and many others: modern lights, modern engine swap (or modern EFI), nice sound system, improved interior....now what's that called?

"Hot rod" sounds too american muscle car or t-bucket, any "gruppe" sounds like a clique of euro dudes, and "custom" is too boring....so...

I used to call my 914 a "cafe racer", like the moto term, because it was low, light, stripped down, loud, a weekend warrior, and fun!

Is Erik's 914 primer? More pics! It has that unique modern/ratrod/outlaw vibe

I guess people can call them whatever they want. Bottom line: they're a blast to drive, especially through the twisties

Mine is wrapped in Matte Chocolate Brown Metallic. Has some copper flake in it. Big 'ol bumper sticker. Its practical too, since all the lightweight panels would likely stress crack paint in about 5 minutes.. The vinyl keeps it all together.

If I'm not mistaken the start of the tread says "show us your rides" but all we're mostly getting is opinions on what "outlaw" means. Since defining outlaw will be subjective,Click to view attachment how about some pics. Here's my 3.2 sleeper as we used to say when building hot rods. Is this and outlaw??? I'm sure some will say no and some say yes so how about showing your cars.

If I'm not mistaken the start of the tread says "show us your rides" but all we're mostly getting is opinions on what "outlaw" means. Since defining outlaw will be subjective,Click to view attachment how about some pics. Here's my 3.2 sleeper as we used to say when building hot rods. Is this and outlaw??? I'm sure some will say no and some say yes so how about showing your cars.

Sorry, couldn't upload pic. Will do so when I figure out what I'm doing wrong.

I was kinda thinking along these lines as I read through this thread....

A VAST majority of the 914's out there have been modified in some way or another...either a different engine, 5 lug conversion, GT, wider wheels, -6 clone, Suby/V8, etc. etc. etc... Yes, there are still a bunch of bone stock 914's out there, but my guess is they are the minority...

356 owners see stock and preservation of stock as the 'right' thing to do, and modifying as blasphemous....hence "Outlaw"

R-Gruppe is just a performance hot-rodded early 911...a group dreamed up by one guy and 'membership' into the group by some super secret handshake or something...

914 owners modify at will for personal satisfaction, with no regard to originality or to be part of a 'club'. We just do it because we want to and we can....

We have two highly modified 914's. Would I call them "Outlaw?" Absolutely not...

But here''s a couple gratuitous pictures anyway.

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double post...dunno how??...

My boss (a bit of an outlaw himself) got into the R-Gruppe with a Euro-spec '73 911 S. When he introduced himself at a group meeting he explained "I learned to paint cars really fast because I was raised by a band of gypsies and they needed to change colors on the hot cars before the cops could figure it out."

Crickets. Turd in punch bowl.

I think I'm suffering from double vision with Naro's double post..but I have to agree with Bob and others ; let's keep our 914world group here non-secret handshake, non-attitude, non-nose in the air. If you need to be an outlaw there is a well known site where you can buy a $5.00 packet of outlaw stickers+patches.
Most of us here are renaissance craftsmen/craftswomen that express our cars in many ways. That is the nature of the rolling art that we drive, our own expressions.
We already have an awesome 914world badge, but if someone here wants to design and offer badges for different genres of the 914 builds, I'd say go for it !
Marty

In the File Attachment section, after you 'Browse' and 'Add This Attachment', make sure to click the 'Add into Post' button.

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Wow Some sweet rides!!!!

Mike D and I came up with a name at Bruce's swap meet………. We would do it in the same font as the R Gruppe guys, but we're the " F Truppe !!!! "


Somehow, it needs to have a human hand in there somewhere too, flipping the bird.

F Truppe ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K4BvF_sb3Y

I think the title here says everything about 914 ownership...don't you think?

http://www.theawl.com/2013/01/the-joys-and...ment-of-f-troop

I'm going to do it. We need to flip the finger a bit to the 911 snobs, don't you think?

an outlaw 914 is a bone stock metallic gold 1.8

Fixed

Even Jay "Outlawed" his '29 Dusey
He was a a local C+C this Sunday and was just shaking down the drivetrain; body panels not ready yet.
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Another view of Jay's Dusenberg...outlaw style, but not for long.
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Sweet car Geezer! I love the duck tail spoiler! I want one of those decklids for mine!

Sweet car Geezer! I love the duck tail spoiler! I want one of those decklids for mine!

I love it Menno! Sehr gut!!!

Here is a picture of my VW racing against "Porsches"

Here's a few pic's of my , 2.8 twinpluged , dry sumped, megasquirt injected, crank fired,
outlawed, hot rodded 914-4 , with a/c ,heat & defrost , Bill D.
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I thought an outlaw 914 is one that's not on jackstands.

Vey nice car so in reading all of this thread is your car more a sleeper than an outlaw? Maybe its both??? I like sleepers. Let them figure out what left them in the dust.

Nice...very Outlaw!

Need a link to your engine or car build thread!

Bill D...good fit of the AA clear rear lenses . Took us about 12 hours including breaking+ re-setting one of the studded posts in the lens.
The 911 style fan housing is trick, looks like a F-A-T performance item ?
One bad outlaw Type4 4sure

Classic!

What is the hose/tubing running around the engine grille for? ... oil cooling?

It's an economy fire suppression system , I also carry a fire extinguisher in the cabin of the car , Bill D.

http://jogrusa.com/products/blazecut-fire-suppression-system

Nice steering wheel! Where did you pick that up from?

This one has a few clues that things may not be stock, but you don't know it has twenty valves and a turbo until you lift the lid. It's done more than a few road trips with sizeable distances through the years, needs paint and body work but it gets driven well and it's always been good to me.
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One of my inspirations!