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rick 918-S
What size line do you have running up to the cooler? I have to plan this out for my 6. It had a front cool but was removed before I ended up with it.
tygaboy
QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Mar 17 2024, 06:36 AM) *

What size line do you have running up to the cooler? I have to plan this out for my 6. It had a front cool but was removed before I ended up with it.

@rick 918-S Michael's car has -12 lines. I assume that's standard for the 3.2/3.6 but I'd defer to those more knowledgable.
rick 918-S
QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 17 2024, 09:52 AM) *

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Mar 17 2024, 06:36 AM) *

What size line do you have running up to the cooler? I have to plan this out for my 6. It had a front cool but was removed before I ended up with it.

@rick 918-S Michael's car has -12 lines. I assume that's standard for the 3.2/3.6 but I'd defer to those more knowledgable.


Thanks. I have been researching hard line stuff but haven't gotten as far as sizing.
tygaboy
Fan mount/lower shroud V2 looks like it's a winner. I still need to add the fasteners for the upper fan mounts but in all, I'm liking it.
This component is far enough along that I can get started on the main shroud design.
Cairo94507
Loving it! This is exactly why I knew Chris and the Red Barn were where I wanted to be smilie_pokal.gif . This is going to work very, very, nicely. I am getting excited to be able to go pick her up and move on to the next stage of this project. beerchug.gif
SirAndy
QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 17 2024, 07:52 AM) *

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Mar 17 2024, 06:36 AM) *

What size line do you have running up to the cooler? I have to plan this out for my 6. It had a front cool but was removed before I ended up with it.

@rick 918-S Michael's car has -12 lines. I assume that's standard for the 3.2/3.6 but I'd defer to those more knowledgable.

I'm running -12 on my car, should be plenty.
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Cairo94507
@SirAndy - Thanks Andy- That makes me feel even more comfortable with this set-up. beerchug.gif
Cairo94507
Oh, and just to follow up, the 3.2 arrived safe and sound to the new owner. I breathed a sigh of relief when he let me know. beerchug.gif
roundtwo
QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 17 2024, 02:54 PM) *

Fan mount/lower shroud V2 looks like it's a winner. I still need to add the fasteners for the upper fan mounts but in all, I'm liking it.
This component is far enough along that I can get started on the main shroud design.



WOW very slick. Looks fantastic and FUNCTIONAL!!
tygaboy
I'm reusing the pre-existing cooler mounting holes but they were so close to that drop-down in the nose of the chassis that even a small-ish washer wasn't a happy fit.

So for Michael, even the washers are custom. laugh.gif shades.gif
Cairo94507
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930cabman
QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 19 2024, 02:35 PM) *

I'm reusing the pre-existing cooler mounting holes but they were so close to that drop-down in the nose of the chassis that even a small-ish washer wasn't a happy fit.

So for Michael, even the washers are custom. laugh.gif shades.gif


With the /6 conversion I have been working on, it appears the same. So many custom bits. How would anybody estimate the $$ for one of these?

labor of love for sure
tygaboy
Driver's side seatbelt retractor mount:
- area prepped (welding jacket protecting things)
- secured with a couple self tapping screws
- TIG welded in place
Note that unwelded hole gets drilled out for the loacting pin on the back side of the retractor.
roundtwo
Diggin' the whole oil cooler system... piratenanner.gif

For us off the shelf folks might something like this be an option for the oil cooler set up?

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productde...asp?RecID=26672
tygaboy
Really? No one? Really? I need you folks to pay more attention!! poke.gif
Not one of you pointed out that if I didn't want to have those fan mounts poking up above the top of the cooler cover, all I had to do was ROTATE THE !@*%($# FANS!!!

I almost pee'd my pants laughing when I realized I'd totally missed this, created more work for myself, etc. Good thing I don't do this as my day job.
tygaboy
I used the redo as an opportunity to make a couple other updates:
- the whole thing is wider and it now competely encloses the cooler
- the width eliminates a minor air gap at the outer, lower corners between the cooler and this mount
- I oriented the fans so the wires all point in the best direction
In all, much better...
Cairo94507
If I had 1 year to design this, I couldn't. Chris is the best. smilie_pokal.gif I love this cooler/fan. beerchug.gif
tygaboy
I'll be posting this on my channel at some point in the future but figured you folks would enjoy keeping up with progress closer to real-time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJHU7KiJnFI
horizontally-opposed
QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 21 2024, 02:22 PM) *

I used the redo as an opportunity to make a couple other updates:
- the whole thing is wider and it now competely encloses the cooler
- the width eliminates a minor air gap at the outer, lower corners between the cooler and this mount
- I oriented the fans so the wires all point in the best direction
In all, much better...


Simply beautiful work…
JmuRiz
Good looking work!! Let me know if you plan on selling off the old shroud bits...if the red barn makes a new taller/wider version.
tygaboy
QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Mar 27 2024, 09:19 AM) *

Good looking work!! Let me know if you plan on selling off the old shroud bits...if the red barn makes a new taller/wider version.


I am making a new shroud. The previous one wasn't close enough (size-wise) that it was worth trying to mod, it's too nice to cut up, makes a complete "kit" for the old cooler, etc., etc.
Cairo94507
Damn that is looking so nice; thank you Chris. smilie_pokal.gif beerchug.gif
JmuRiz
Wow, good looking preview shot. I like!
tygaboy
Shroud top, beading added, awaiting final trimming. Remember, it'll get covered with Perlon, just like the earlier version. Still, we want the part to be as nice as possible for Michael!
rick 918-S
Looks like that will.work nicely
Cairo94507
Amazing work Chris- Thank you. beerchug.gif
tygaboy
Final trimming nearly complete.
Shivers
That is really nice. smile.gif
fiacra
QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 21 2024, 03:18 PM) *

Really? No one? Really? I need you folks to pay more attention!! poke.gif
Not one of you pointed out that if I didn't want to have those fan mounts poking up above the top of the cooler cover, all I had to do was ROTATE THE !@*%($# FANS!!!

I almost pee'd my pants laughing when I realized I'd totally missed this, created more work for myself, etc. Good thing I don't do this as my day job.


How funny! I saw that and then, probably like most people, I assumed you had done that for a reason. The problem is that I just automatically assume that as much time as you put into design, and as innovative as you are, that this was done for a purpose this mere mortal couldn't comprehend. Now that I know you're human I'll start questioning everything you do (like putting a Ferrari engine in a Porsche wacko.gif ) beerchug.gif
East coaster
Looks great! Are the sides to be welded to mechanical connection?
Cairo94507
Jesus...that looks great!
tygaboy
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Mar 30 2024, 04:19 PM) *

Jesus...that looks great!

@Cairo94507 Michael - Glad you like it! But wait until it's all done and sanded: here's a sneak peek after a few minutes with the d/a.
Cairo94507
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tygaboy
QUOTE(East coaster @ Mar 30 2024, 03:56 PM) *

Looks great! Are the sides to be welded to mechanical connection?

@East coaster Welded. But I don't trust my AL welding skills on someone else's stuff so I called in the cavalry in the form of Martin.
Here's an artsy-fartsy shot with the master at work with Michael's car serving as a back drop. Then one of the shroud in place. Nearly done!
Cairo94507
I could never thank Chris and Martin enough. This is just next-level beautiful. Thank you Chris and Martin beerchug.gif .
East coaster
Very nice!
Root_Werks
Moving right along for sure! Big six in a non-flared 914 will be cool. Sleeper for sure.
roundtwo
Santa’s helpers knocking it out of the park. Looks profesh for sure and no doubt functional when it’s complete.

Michael, do you know how you’re going to get power to the fans yet?
Curious to see if you need to add a new circuit.
Steve
Amazing work!! Congrats!!
KELTY360
QUOTE(tygaboy @ Apr 1 2024, 12:54 PM) *

QUOTE(East coaster @ Mar 30 2024, 03:56 PM) *

Looks great! Are the sides to be welded to mechanical connection?

@East coaster Welded. But I don't trust my AL welding skills on someone else's stuff so I called in the cavalry in the form of Martin.
Here's an artsy-fartsy shot with the master at work with Michael's car serving as a back drop. Then one of the shroud in place. Nearly done!

The top of that shroud just screams for a Red Barn decal!
tygaboy
For those who may enjoy seeing how I made that shroud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=388VwDuNM3A
Cairo94507
I just watched Chris' magic; I am left without words. I am blessed to count Chris as a good friend. His skills are just crazy, off the scale. I can't believe how nice the whole shroud/oil cooler set-up looks. We will powder coat everything and cover the shroud in Perlon to match the bulkhead. We are going to pick my car up Sunday and I can't wait to see it. Thank you Chris for doing this project and making it way, way, way nicer than any GT-style oil cooler/shroud I have ever seen. I doubt the factory would have even come close to this level of perfection. first.gif beerchug.gif
burton73
Always enjoyable to see the work and process at the Red Barn!
Michael, your baby is getting much closer.
Bravo too everybody involved.

Best Bob B

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Cairo94507
OK, we picked up my car from Chris ( @Tygaboy ) at The Red Barn yesterday. driving.gif His work is absolutely stunning - pictures do not do it justice. smilie_pokal.gif I feel so lucky he accepted the oil cooler upgrade project as well as making the new attachment plates for my retractible seatbelts and welding them in. Every time my brother and I took my Six somewhere, we wished we had retractible belts. I am pretty sure we all heard a huge sigh of relief from Chris when we loaded it into the trailer yesterday. biggrin.gif

Now my car is in Greg T's shop; where we will finish the project with the 3.6 install. I say "we" but let's be honest, I am the "gopher" as he works. I get to do little stuff, easy stuff, he is the mastermind. I consider myself lucky to have Greg as a good friend; we always have a good time in his shop. I love learning, and like Chris, Greg is an excellent teacher. His skills as a mechanic and body-man are outstanding. If you were at Werks Reunion last year, and saw the stunning Willow Green 914-6 GT parked a few cars down from my car, that is Greg's. I would argue that is his resume, and it speaks volumes.

BTW, here is a picture showing my old oil cooler in front of my new, larger, oil cooler. It is, I would guess, 25% larger. I am hoping between that size increase, the 3 fans, the digital thermostat and the beautiful shroud, we will not have any oil temperature issues.

Finally, here is my car in Greg's shop. Stay tuned as the project starts the next chapter.
I will endeavor to document all aspects of the swap and post here. Like my full build thread, (see my signature) I do this so everyone can see what it takes and how it can be done. I hope that makes the job easier for anyone who decides to do some or all of this to their car. beerchug.gif

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Steve
Nice man cave!! I need to down size. My garage is two cars and wall to wall shelves with boxes of crap. Future retirement project!!
mepstein
Stock 964/993 cars only have the one front cooler and they have 1k more lbs to push around. I bet your car works great.
Cairo94507
Thanks Mark. I hope that is the case; but, we have a "Plan B" if we need it. beerchug.gif
tygaboy
@Cairo94507 "I am pretty sure we all heard a huge sigh of relief from Chris when we loaded it into the trailer yesterday."
Yes, yes, you did! That was a fun project and I'm honored to contribute to your build but working around a car that nice made me a nervous wreck! blink.gif
Thankfully, it escaped unscathed! I can't wait to see it after Greg works his magic.
roundtwo
Always an entertaining and educational experience to stop by the red barn. I really enjoyed the vids and seeing the mods along the way. Given that one of my next projects is similar to this one, I’m super excited to pilfer Chris’s latest intellectual capital beerchug.gif

I’ll get a hold of your office staff to reserve bay #2 before it’s filled poke.gif
Seriously, well done.

Hoping you’ll share the next steps Mike particularly how you’re going to wire everything. Are the fans going to be controlled by an oil thermostat or simple on off switch, or …?


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