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michelko
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Sep 30 2004, 11:22 PM)
BTW:
Did you bought the engine tray from Mittelmotor ? If yes , how much is it and how much did
you paid for the german customs when buying the frame stiffening kit ?

Hi Benno,
yes the shelf comes from Mittelmotor. Waited for it about 6 weeks. 149 Euro is the price. Dont´t know customs fee, the bill is on the way.
Was very easy to deal with engman, and the part are realy fine. Can´t await to do the welding welder.gif welder.gif

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Gruss aus Frankenthal
michelko
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Sep 30 2004, 11:22 PM)
Hiho Mickelko,

really very nice work !! smilie_pokal.gif

In the next weeks i have to do pretty much the same work on my car.

It will be partly sandblasted next week and then i have to breath the smell of rust ... wink.gif

BTW:
Did you bought the engine tray from Mittelmotor ? If yes , how much is it and how much did
you paid for the german customs when buying the frame stiffening kit ?

Aircooled greetings from Berlin smilie_flagge6.gif

Benno

Dont´t forget to show us pics from your project!!!

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Jeroen
Hey Benno,

I'm not quite sure about Germany, but I think it is the same as in the Netherlands (or other EU countries)
Importing duties/taxes are 3.5% on car parts (if the value is over 500 euro)

Plus you pay sales tax (MehrwertStuer) over the cost of the parts and shipping (16% for Germany)

So it's not too bad...

cheers,

Jeroen
Gint
I somehow never managed to look at this thread until this morning.

Nice work! Keep those pics comin.
ClayPerrine
This is impressive work.. I actually paid a body shop to do similar work. ....

IMHO.. I would invest in one of Brad Mayer's long stiffing kit. It really helps to make the car stronger across the bottom.

Keep us posted on this...
michelko
Hi guys,
today was welding time biggrin.gif I love it!!!
First shot: the Heater tube mounted
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primed pieces
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drilled a lot of holes to do the spot welding.
First rule: have the welding area as clean as possible.
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the dark colored area is painted with wel trough primer
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uigio
bryanthompson
You are freaking amazing! pray.gif pray.gif
michelko
this progress made my day.
ANd now it´s time to beer3.gif drunk.gif


Hope you enjoy the pic´s

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rhodyguy
my first look too. in most cases your's would be a parts car in the states. great work!!!

kevin
Root_Werks
This rocks man! I love this stuff! mueba.gif
bryanthompson
Did you do anything special to hold the geometry of the car while you cut/welded the new outer long in there? Also, can you notice any shrinkage from the welding you've done there?
Bleyseng
Great work!

I think that more us will be trying to rescue cars that have this problem in the future over here.

Geoff welder.gif
michelko
QUOTE(bryanthompson @ Oct 2 2004, 09:46 AM)
Did you do anything special to hold the geometry of the car while you cut/welded the new outer long in there? Also, can you notice any shrinkage from the welding you've done there?

Sure, made a bar between mounting point from security belt and door hinge.
You can see it in some pictures. The bar is adjustable, so you can set the right messurement.
No shrinkage till now, but i think there will be some when i weld in the grey part (donßt know the name in english confused24.gif )
I think i will give the door opening 1 or two additional millimeter to compensate the shrinkage. Hope this helps.

In the factory repais manual you can find some chasis measurement. I will try to match them after the welding.
Wish me luck.
In europe there are not so mutch car´s. Realy good ones are rare.
Most of the produced car´s where exported to the US. You lucky guys!!


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bryanthompson
ahh, looking back, i see the strap you used... very cool.

Is there any solution to shrinkage, or do you just have to live with it?
michelko
Maybe slow welding. let it cool down every spotweld to reduce the heat in the metal?

Welding the long took about 2 1/2 hours.

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SirAndy
QUOTE(michelko @ Oct 2 2004, 11:24 AM)
Maybe slow welding. let it cool down every spotweld to reduce the heat in the metal?

hey michelko,
you're doing a great job, i'm impressed! smilie_pokal.gif

as for the measurements, check out the 914 info section (link on top of this page), we have all needed measurements listed there ...

keep us posted!

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PS: sehe ich da "sonne" im hintergrund? im oktober? confused24.gif biggrin.gif
michelko
Hi ANdy,
i know that measurements. The problem is how to get them in a restored car.
Should i give them a little plus so that the shrinkage is compensated or adjust the bar at the correct amount and hope that the chasis is strong enough to hold that measurement? wacko.gif

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SirAndy
QUOTE(michelko @ Oct 2 2004, 11:49 AM)
Should i give them a little plus so that the shrinkage is compensated or adjust the bar at the correct amount and hope that the chasis is strong enough to hold that measurement?

i would think that with the bracing, shrinkage will be minimal. the chassis can't really move anywhere if it is braced correctly.
i had only the door-braces when my roll-cage was welded in (brace from front hinge to lock plate) and the top of the car shrank about 3 mm ...
if i had braced that as well, i would have been fine.

make a X-Brace from the front targa latches to the rear targa latches,
that will keep your windshield-frame and targa top in place.
that, plus the door braces you already have, you should be fine!

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michelko
[quote=SirAndy,Oct 2 2004, 10:38 AM] [QUOTE=michelko,Oct 2 2004, 11:24 AM]
PS: sehe ich da "sonne" im hintergrund? im oktober? confused24.gif biggrin.gif [/quote]
Jep. war ein toller Tag heute.

Gruss Michael
michelko
Hi together,
here are some update pic´s.
Welded in the repair panel from AA.
michelko
was a straight forward work.
I love welding wub.gif welder.gif
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nother one
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#3
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back side
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one or two weeks, and it will stand on his own feet again.
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view from inside of the engine bay
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nother one
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the welding burned nicely through. So i think this should be strong like new. (hope so)

Have a nice weekend

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Jeroen
Again... nice job!
Those welds look very nice
SpecialK
QUOTE(Jeroen @ Oct 9 2004, 03:30 AM)
Again... nice job!
Those welds look very nice

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Looks VERY strong! I'm paying very close attention to this thread because unfortunately I'll be making the same repairs in the not too distant future sad.gif
sgomes
Everytime I catch up on this thread I just stare at my monitor slack jawed...

Dude, you are a man amongest children. pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif
mikey
Amazing work! Just beautiful. smilie_pokal.gif

My right suspension ear was rotten too. But I was lucky, I guess. The right longitudinal was solid.
michelko
Hello together,
today i welded in the outer suspension console. I made a brace to match the original place. Hope it worked. An allignment Job will show it wink.gif
first pic shows the primed area. Dark colour is weldeable primer.
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brace
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console in place
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with mounting hardware
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test fitting of the new door sill
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nother view.
this piece fits perfect. Don´t know the manufaturer. Got them from e-bay.
Root_Werks
Dang man, you are an animal! Thanks for all the great pics! Keep them coming. smilie_pokal.gif
SirAndy
sehr gute arbeit! smilie_flagge6.gif

du hast dir ein paar biere verdient! laugh.gif
beer3.gif drunk.gif beerchug.gif Andy
balljoint
Michelko, very nice work. I am jealous. smile.gif

Do you know who made the outer suspension console or is that one of the pieces that you bought off of ebay? I need one and I did not know they were available new. After seeing your posted pictures I checked on a few websites but I could only find the inner suspension console ear.
BatAc
The "outer" console or bracket if you've gone through the thread you'll see what Michelko has done. He took off the old one sandblsted it, primed it 'n' WHALA new piece!!! So Michelko, did you just regular (grey) prime the various pieces? Then the black stuff that looks like POR 15 is really welding primer on top of regular primer???
Thanks, keep it up, the next major piece I assume is the "ear"? Looking forward to it!!!
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