brant
Mar 3 2011, 10:41 PM
QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Mar 3 2011, 03:10 PM)
Great looking motor, what's the size? I'm guessing rather high c:r with the twin plugs.
Is that the Patrick Motorsports engine mount...looks cool.
its tiny
a 2ltr, with the class legal 40thousandths overbore
so only 2040cc
not too wild of compression but race gas and race compression
Mike G. won't make it saturday as you figured out
but I owe you a beer. I should run out and bug you some time soon when its good for you.
Ferg. Hope you have a great turn out saturday. Take pictures
JmuRiz
Mar 4 2011, 09:41 AM
Cool, I'm sure it'll scream real nice :-)
maxwelj
Mar 4 2011, 11:02 AM
coming to Hallett this year?
brant
Mar 7 2011, 10:51 PM
QUOTE(maxwelj @ Mar 4 2011, 10:02 AM)
coming to Hallett this year?
going to miss the spring hallet that is about to happen
but should be ready for the fall hallet event
(need to get some more break in time on the motor and sort a few things)
brant
Mar 7 2011, 10:57 PM
the install trip was a success
I have a few things left to fabricate and rewire
but we did get it installed, got a couple of hours of break-in time
and some rough dyno time
we had to limit the rpm since the motor isn't broken in yet
I didn't have time to increase the venturi's or nail down the jetting
this is 6900rpm with small vents and really mild timing
hopefully once its broken in we can bump the redline up, bump the timing, add bigger jets, and pick up another 10-15hp
(the hp was still climbing without hittings its peak yet)
this is at the rear wheels:
Ferg
Mar 8 2011, 08:32 AM
Those are great hp numbers, congrats Brant!
sean_v8_914
Mar 8 2011, 09:54 AM
what is that dip at 4500?
brant
Mar 8 2011, 10:01 AM
QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ Mar 8 2011, 08:54 AM)
what is that dip at 4500?
I think that is actually the beginning of the dyno run when he first "floored" it.
the moment the accelerators pump in and all of the gas hits the motor
we geared the car to stay above 5K, and try to never drop below 5k in any corner.
Casper
Mar 8 2011, 12:53 PM
Brant,
Will you make either Topeka or Hastings this year?
Tom
brant
Mar 8 2011, 02:39 PM
QUOTE(Casper @ Mar 8 2011, 11:53 AM)
Brant,
Will you make either Topeka or Hastings this year?
Tom
possibly both
for sure hasting... but I'm trying to stretch out and do a bit more this year, so possibly both.
(we will see if gas goes over 5$ a gallon)
it would be great to see you again!
Casper
Mar 8 2011, 03:08 PM
QUOTE(brant @ Mar 8 2011, 12:39 PM)
QUOTE(Casper @ Mar 8 2011, 11:53 AM)
Brant,
Will you make either Topeka or Hastings this year?
Tom
possibly both
for sure hasting... but I'm trying to stretch out and do a bit more this year, so possibly both.
(we will see if gas goes over 5$ a gallon)
it would be great to see you again!
When is Topeka? I tried checking the Heartland Park website, and could find anything listed for vintage racing.
Tom
brant
Mar 8 2011, 03:42 PM
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When is Topeka? I tried checking the Heartland Park website, and could find anything listed for vintage racing.
Tom
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weird, I couldn't find it either.
I'm wondering if its going to fall off the schedule now
I see that HVR is still co-sponsoring the Hastings event
(I've heard that CVAR is also tri-co sponsoring Hastings as well, so Hastings should be fun and busy this year)
brant
brant
Mar 22 2011, 10:52 PM
a couple of pictures to save of the motor installed:
brant
Mar 22 2011, 10:55 PM
A very trick new shift console and rod.
very very straight with a pair of Apex bushings
brant
Mar 22 2011, 10:58 PM
The new merged exhaust
no horse power gains on the dyno
but lots of midrange torque numbers showed up
euro911
Mar 22 2011, 11:04 PM
QUOTE(brant @ Mar 22 2011, 09:55 PM)
A very trick new shift console and rod.
very very straight with a pair of Apex bushings
Cool, Brant ... and I assume it was way less $ than the other white meat?
brant
Mar 23 2011, 08:44 AM
QUOTE(euro911 @ Mar 22 2011, 11:04 PM)
QUOTE(brant @ Mar 22 2011, 09:55 PM)
A very trick new shift console and rod.
very very straight with a pair of Apex bushings
Cool, Brant ... and I assume it was way less $ than the other white meat?
the machinist and tig work plus apex bushings all are pricey
some savings.
but hopefully the bushings are a little more precise
making the cover is a pain in the butt though!
Gint
Mar 23 2011, 06:59 PM
I guess I know what you're doing every weekend this summer!
brant
Mar 23 2011, 07:05 PM
QUOTE(Gint @ Mar 23 2011, 06:59 PM)
I guess I know what you're doing every weekend this summer!
I hope a few weekends anyways
I really missed it last summer when the motor blew in July.
Hey, you want to travel or at least come out for a local event this year
(you can visit the lovely and exotic locations of oklahoma, texas, kansas, and nebraska if you want)
I promise not to force you to mix buckets of concrete... not even one!
shelby/914
Mar 23 2011, 07:15 PM
Aren't you going to run any events at High Plains? It's a lot closer than any of those other places you mentioned and a really fun track. We've been doing two open track events there every year since it opened.
Danny
Gint
Mar 23 2011, 10:04 PM
QUOTE(brant @ Mar 23 2011, 06:05 PM)
QUOTE(Gint @ Mar 23 2011, 06:59 PM)
I guess I know what you're doing every weekend this summer!
I hope a few weekends anyways
I really missed it last summer when the motor blew in July.
Hey, you want to travel or at least come out for a local event this year
(you can visit the lovely and exotic locations of oklahoma, texas, kansas, and nebraska if you want)
I promise not to force you to mix buckets of concrete... not even one!
What do you do for fun then? All the plains hotspots. That's pretty tempting.
brant
Mar 24 2011, 11:42 AM
Danny,
definitely going to be at hpr
rmvr season opener is may 14th
come out and have lunch if you can make it... I've always got extra food and water around.
(I'm trying to get some travel in this summer and love ECR(texas) as well as Hallet(OK)... although nebraska is not as fun of a track as hpr, I love the event and the tom-foolery of the party, so hope to go to Nebraska too. Even trying to get accepted into the Corando Festival of Speed down in San Diego for the fall.
Mike,
seriously, if you ever want to take a 3-4 day weekend and travel with dad and I to an "exotic" locale your always welcome to come ride along
brant
brant
Oct 1 2011, 01:53 PM
We re-scaled and recorner balanced after switching over to the magnesium case motor. We hoped to loose a few pounds by switching out of the aluminum case. It paid off, here is our new wet weight with 19quarts of oil and 4.5 gallons of gas on board.
KaptKaos
Oct 1 2011, 02:36 PM
I love that merged exhaust. Like the old 356 Sebring style ones.
bryans914
May 18 2012, 11:43 PM
Great story and pics! Would be a good book. Where, when will you run the car?
George, SoCal, also on a long term project.
brant
May 22 2012, 01:15 PM
Hi George,
I've been running it mostly in colorado for about 6 years
I've done events in Oklahoma, texas, nebraska also
I was able to participate in fleetweek last fall at coronado island, in san diego also.
stuttgart46
May 23 2012, 06:58 AM
Let me know when you run TWS next time. I'd love to help out. And I work for cheap. (like a sandwich and beer cheap) LOL
seanery
May 23 2012, 07:04 AM
One of my all time favorite threads!
0396
May 23 2012, 07:26 AM
Very cool! Your -6 has always been one of my favorite.
Congrats on all your new mods.
brant
Sep 19 2012, 06:43 PM
25 hours on my last tranny rebuild wasn't acceptable
I have been running the car with 2 drivers on the track and I think this is a big factor in my situation at altitude......
I don't believe I need to update the 901 yet as I am not ripping things apart like the big HP guys do with 901's
all signs point to heat
so I decided to add cooling
I just couldn 't find a location that had the air flow I wanted
I'm running a center exhaust now and that eliminated some cooler location options
I hate adding the weight, but hopefully it improves reliability
the weight is in the worse place too, so we kept everything as light as possible and as far forward on the chassis as we could.....
the pump is heavy, but the ducting up high weighs nearly nothing. The cooler is light too.
I considered heat shields next to exhaust and header locations and also didn't like things that close to exhaust heat.....
we really wanted the pump to self prime as overall that is a good thing, and we can avoid using a one way valve (one less thing to fail) So a low mounted pump became a priority for us. and also factored into the plumbing.
after much thought... I decided to go inside the trunk with duct work
the trunk offers me its own built in heat shielding
the down sides is that it requires the duct work.
dad and I hand built some aluminum ducts.. a scoop and a "hood" to disperse the air. the scoop really came out nice and it was all my father's work. too bad we don't have tig yet, but it still looks great with only rivets....
I added a gauge and sensor in the speedo drive location
we used a stock speedo aluminum piece by cutting off the top and bottom, gutting the seal, and tapping the center... it really came out nice and is in a good oil flow
I intend to pull the gauge after we verify the ducting (or possibly modify things if necessary) so the gauge is temp mounted in the cockpit and is extra weight that will go after 3-4 events prove it out.
anyway here are some pictures:
brant
Sep 19 2012, 06:45 PM
Here is the cooler in the trunk without the duct work attatched:
brant
Sep 19 2012, 06:47 PM
underneath:
brant
Sep 19 2012, 06:50 PM
the aluminum hood:
Ferg
Sep 19 2012, 07:09 PM
Cool!
MoveQik
Sep 19 2012, 10:54 PM
Where is the "scoop" located back there to give you more pressure in front of the cooler than behind it? Looks cool!
brant
Sep 19 2012, 11:15 PM
QUOTE(MoveQik @ Sep 19 2012, 10:54 PM)
Where is the "scoop" located back there to give you more pressure in front of the cooler than behind it? Looks cool!
Good question. Approximately at the lower firewall, where the 4 cylinder turblance flaps would be. We will see if it gets enough airflow according to the gauge.
stuttgart46
Sep 20 2012, 06:39 AM
Beautiful work as always.
When are you going to get to try it out?
brant
Sep 20 2012, 12:08 PM
QUOTE(stuttgart46 @ Sep 20 2012, 06:39 AM)
Beautiful work as always.
When are you going to get to try it out?
I should be on the track at coronado tomorrow morning if there are no surprises. We crossed the california border and have another 175 miles to go
Ferg
Sep 20 2012, 02:46 PM
QUOTE(brant @ Sep 20 2012, 10:08 AM)
QUOTE(stuttgart46 @ Sep 20 2012, 06:39 AM)
Beautiful work as always.
When are you going to get to try it out?
I should be on the track at coronado tomorrow morning if there are no surprises. We crossed the california border and have another 175 miles to go
Cracker
Jan 11 2013, 08:47 AM
OT: Coronado in Sept? I had the family in SD on vacation Thursday (20th) evening in Coronado and pulled over quickly because I saw what appeared to be a "mini-car show" (BMW 2002's, 911, etc) and vintage race cars. After scrambling for a parking space, we rounded the street on foot to see them as they all roared off. It was a bummer for me and my son. The folks there said they were racing at Coronado (air field?) in the morning. Small world possibly, but were you there that "closed street" deal Thursday evening (about 5:00-6:00)? I understood that to be an autocross set-up. Had I known you or other teeners were there I would have come by Sat. AM. Bummer!
Just for the record: I have an understanding wife who encouraged me to go the next morning to the races but we were planning on heading back up to Newport Beach/Check out, etc. and I didn't feel like cramping the "family" schedule so I didn't go. I wish I had now...
brant
Jan 11 2013, 09:30 AM
The cars in town are really more of a parade lap into town (not really an autox)
they park in town on the street and display for a half hour and then tour back.
The race is a full race track set up on the runways of the navy
Its where the fighter jets normally land/take off.
(I think maybe where they filmed the top gun scenes)
Its on base, and one of the few times where they allow civilians to come on base.
they have about 300 cars racing wheel to wheel in 10 run groups
plus air shows of the navy equiptment and seals doing skydiving into the track
oh... and tours of some of the ships, aircraft carriers etc...
I'm bummed you didn't make it in
its a 3 day race and the paddock is open
approximately 20,000 spectators.
I didn't tour into town that evening, but I ran the 3 days of the event.
We had a good number of 914's, including Hans with his Real factory built GT-twin plug, and the Altec-Lansing 914 was running also.
Here are
PICTURES
brant
Jun 3 2014, 08:16 PM
a couple of photo updates
good to save them here
we changed torsion bars, re-thinking some of the suspension and ride height with the traqmate numbers...
of course the annual re- corner balance also:
brant
Jun 3 2014, 08:24 PM
last season we did some more experimenting with our tranny cooler.
ran a scoop in the passenger side window opening to pull cooler air
alot more air was the result and the tranny gauge showed the temp drop.
here is the new scoop to the same old cooler:
brant
Jun 3 2014, 08:26 PM
and:
brant
Jun 3 2014, 08:28 PM
we were shooting for minimal drag:
rick 918-S
Jun 3 2014, 09:20 PM
Car looks great Brant!
brant
Jun 4 2014, 06:26 AM
QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Jun 3 2014, 09:20 PM)
Car looks great Brant!
thank you sir!
Woody
Jun 4 2014, 06:39 AM
bulitt
Jun 4 2014, 06:51 AM
QUOTE(brant @ Jun 3 2014, 10:28 PM)
we were shooting for minimal drag:
How about a plexiglass side window with a NACA duct?
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Looks good now get out there and race it
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