Isn't it amazing the difference is with just the blasting. Gonna be nice.........

I'll be media blasting next time for sure...that seems like the way to go.

Lokin good guys...

QUOTE (914RS @ Jun 6 2005, 07:56 PM)

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... I know what I want to be when I grow up....

Liz: I'll be there Thursday evening. Just need an address. TMB here I come.
:PERMAGRIN: Joe

Wow, i love media blasting/acid dipping. Such a fresh start for the car. Is that in primer as well for $400? I can't tell at all

No, bare steel... Thats the finish when its hit with sand... alot

Wow, we'll that sure is cool. I wish I could blast/dip my car, but I wana drive it rather than look at it
Eric

P.S.
How nice that this is at our finger tips now in the emoticon tray.

QUOTE (Joe Sharp @ Jun 6 2005, 07:43 PM)

Liz: I'll be there Thursday evening. Just need an address. TMB here I come. :PERMAGRIN: Joe

Joe your gonna TMB Car is looking Great!

Oil cooler and Vellios oil tank have arrived:

tank:

Be sure to test the Vellios tank for leaks before installing. They are notorious for leaking.

Joe: you have this was of making me feel sooo goood and baad at the same time .
Joe

Yup...I'm taking notes for sure. I see myself doing a six-er this winter. Media blasting is the way to go FOR SURE!

The first mock-up.

Thinking out loud and looking for creative solutions, I think this might work (with other ducting):

QUOTE (don9146 @ Jun 7 2005, 03:34 PM)

Be sure to test the Vellios tank for leaks before installing. They are notorious for leaking.

I have a TIG welder...

Leave room for the kegs, "real" kegs. Liz can write this car off as advertising...

Interesting idea. How are you thinking of ducting air to it? Specifically the exaust or hot air after the cooler? I have seen one (Mountain 914) have a cooler where the fresh air fan was. Brad had built a BP 914 that had the cooler under the front bumper (it had a glass 75-76 style bumper)

QUOTE (Neo914 @ Jun 7 2005, 08:17 PM)

Leave room for the kegs,  "real" kegs.  :beer2:  Liz can write this car off as advertising...

She's married to Nico. Nico could write off a big dump in the woods....

QUOTE (Travis Neff @ Jun 7 2005, 08:24 PM)

Interesting idea. How are you thinking of ducting air to it? Specifically the exaust or hot air after the cooler? I have seen one (Mountain 914) have a cooler where the fresh air fan was. Brad had built a BP 914 that had the cooler under the front bumper (it had a glass 75-76 style bumper)

The exhaust is easy. I'll make the aluminum rain tray for the header so it catches rain, but still exhausts air. (No heat or defog in this car)

The air supply to the cooler is more difficult, but I think I have a relatively simple solution. Watch for pics...

QUOTE (914RS @ Jun 7 2005, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE (Neo914 @ Jun 7 2005, 08:17 PM) Leave room for the kegs,  "real" kegs.  :beer2:  Liz can write this car off as advertising... She's married to Nico. Nico could wright off a big dump in the woods....

I take it Nico is loaded...in many ways. j/k, I met him.

QUOTE (Neo914 @ Jun 7 2005, 08:33 PM)

I take it Nico is loaded...in many ways.

Yeah, ALWAYS have a source of ventilation readily available....

Liz, Lauren (and Joe too) - I sure hope you can make it to the Route 66 Classic this weekend. If so, I have some critical parts to donate for your build project.

QUOTE (914RS @ Jun 7 2005, 09:27 PM)

She's married to Nico. Nico could write off a big dump in the woods....

Yeah, Nico's really creative when it comes to finding tax write-offs...



I don't think he's ever tried to write-off one of his dumps, though!!!

QUOTE (VegasRacer @ Jun 8 2005, 04:39 AM)

Liz, Lauren (and Joe too) - I sure hope you can make it to the Route 66 Classic this weekend. If so, I have some critical parts to donate for your build project.

We'll be there Friday evening - Saturday afternoon. We're not going all the way to Nevada, but we'll hang in there for a while. Sorry, no 914 going, though... My Passat will have to do!

QUOTE (TurtleGirl @ Jun 8 2005, 05:07 PM)

I don't think he's ever tried to write-off one of his dumps, though!!!

If that doesn't impress the IRS, I don't know what will.

LMAO

Let the welding begin!

Three pictures follow.

We welded up the holes for the late bumpers and one side of the roll bar trim. It's a good thing I'm an experienced TIG welder on sheet metal or this would have been a train wreck. MIG welding is easy, but my TIG experience was necessary to just step up and weld sheet metal (.045")on a car (instead of practicing first).

front:

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Cut the oil cooler hole and welded up the side-marker holes today:

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Is that where you put the oil cooler on yours? Other than removing the plug-holes, how are you going to funnel the air up to there?

Looking great man...

Great stuff Joe, keep 'em coming..........

QUOTE (914RS @ Jun 14 2005, 07:47 PM)

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Nice work! I like the oil cooler location. Bumpers on the way, UPS tracking number 1ZE529750397588769

Joe,
What are you using to cut the sheet metal? Is that a grinder with a cutting wheel or something else? If it is a cuting wheel could you give some details..?
The cutting wheels I have used with my grinder give me a "rougher cut" than I would like.... Almost like they are too thick to do detail cutting....
Thanks

Thom

QUOTE (CptTripps @ Jun 14 2005, 08:50 PM)

Is that where you put the oil cooler on yours? Other than removing the plug-holes, how are you going to funnel the air up to there? Looking great man...

No. It's not where my cooler is located, but it will work nicely for this application. Mine is mandatory for the 3.6 and has to have a fan running at all times. This is a traditional aux cooler, and is twice the size necessary.

Translation: No fans and marginal ducting will do the job.

Great post, Joe.

I am here Joe, watching, waiting, wishing I could come help. I love these cars.

QUOTE (dakotaewing @ Jun 14 2005, 09:08 PM)

Joe, What are you using to cut the sheet metal? Is that a grinder with a cutting wheel or something else? If it is a cuting wheel could you give some details..? The cutting wheels I have used with my grinder give me a "rougher cut" than I would like.... Almost like they are too thick to do detail cutting.... Thanks Thom

4"x.040" w/5/8" arbor.

I use them all the time. They cost about a dollar each at Home Depot.

Those are what I use too....Just take the INSIDE out, and you can get pretty precision with them.

QUOTE (914RS @ Jun 14 2005, 11:31 PM)

QUOTE (dakotaewing @ Jun 14 2005, 09:08 PM) Joe, What are you using to cut the sheet metal? Is that a grinder with a cutting wheel or something else? If it is a cuting wheel could you give some details..? The cutting wheels I have used with my grinder give me a "rougher cut" than I would like.... Almost like they are too thick to do detail cutting.... Thanks Thom 4"x.040" w/5/8" arbor. I use them all the time. They cost about a dollar each at Home Depot.

Joe,

Thanks for the details - and the pic-

TE

funky oil cooler placement.... interesting....

i've got my eye on you....

QUOTE (CptTripps @ Jun 14 2005, 11:36 PM)

Those are what I use too....Just take the INSIDE out, and you can get pretty precision with them.

INSIDE out????

Please explain....
TE

so whats the plan for a gas tank? you going to do a fuel cell in the trunk area?

QUOTE (MJHanna @ Jun 15 2005, 04:48 AM)

so whats the plan for a gas tank? you going to do a fuel cell in the trunk area?

We're going to use a stock tank. There's room.

k it just does not look like you will have good air flow through the cooler

QUOTE (MJHanna @ Jun 15 2005, 03:34 PM)

k  it just does not look like you will have good air flow through the cooler  :idea:  :confused:

This cooler is twice the size necessary for the engine. If the cooler gets any flow, it should easily keep temps in check.

The cooler's placement in this location solves a few problems and keeps the front trunk functioning as a trunk (at least to some degree).

It's not completely worked out, but it will be. As for ducting, I'm building a custom rain tray for the header that will keep rain out, but lets air escape from the gas tank compartment. In the front, I'm going to try simply letting air in through the original cooler holes with no other ducting. If the cooler needs more flow, actual ducting will follow after the car's completion.

Considering the aux cooler that came stock on 3.0SC engines, I think we're going to be fine with this.

QUOTE (dakotaewing @ Jun 14 2005, 10:42 PM)

QUOTE (CptTripps @ Jun 14 2005, 11:36 PM) Those are what I use too....Just take the INSIDE out, and you can get pretty precision with them. INSIDE out???? Please explain.... TE

I think what Joe means, correct me if I'm wrong, is to cut on the inside of the line... not the actual line. You'll end up with a precise cut without it being too big or rough. If you cut centered on the line, you'll end up with a minimal margin of error... sometimes you don't want any error!!!

Thanks for all of the support guys!