I don't want to sell it, I've said that from the beginning. I found the car, bought it, shipped it, paid $$$ to sort it, and now it's ready. When I first started the project I had several months to play with before the body was done so when there was an uproar on the forum about the car and the project I extended the offer if anyone wanted to trade their running driving six conversion for it, even with horrible cosmetics, I would entertain the offer. I got nothing, crickets, silence. Now months later I have received a couple of offers that have not come close to what I said I would trade for. So no I don't have a price to sell the car, I don't want to sell it. I am also out of time because the body is here and I want to start on the project, not have to go back to square one on the project. So once again, the car was offered to the 914 community months ago and no one wanted it, or didn't want it bad enough to give up their car. It's too bad that for the people who profess they would and should do everything to save this car, either don't have the money for it, or don't really care enough. I came out of the pocket to buy the car when no one else would, I came out of the pocket to get the car up to snuff, and now I'm the bad guy because I want to use the car for my project. This is America, if you want something, you buy it, I did, when no one else would. This car had been for sale off and on for 8 years, yes 8 years. So everyone had a shot to buy it, no one cared. But now that I have thousands invested everyone wants to crucify me. It's getting real tiresome. I put the thread on here because I thought I was doing something pretty cool, taking a car that had been put out to pasture and breathing new life into it, jumping through a lot of hurdles on the way, to build one of my dream cars, and all I've gotten out of a bunch of you is grief, so please, go talk trash somewhere else, or come by on Saturday and say it to my face. But there are no new arguements here, or offers, or anything, just pissed off guys who don't even put there names to their words, taking jabs at a guy sharing his passion for Porsches and his latest project. Move on, grow up, get a massage, something, but please stop saying the same things, again and again and again.

Adam Wright
Unobtanium-Inc

Then I don't understand. You say no one has made you a real offer, but then say you don't want to sell it.

You are right you stepped up and bought it good for you. If it upsets you so much that others feel that using a 914 (in my case any 914) for this will not turn out like you want, then sorry.

The problem with text is you don't hear the persons inflection in their voice. I'm not saying your wrong for wanting to do this, but I just don't see how you will save any time using a 914 chassis at all. Why spend months cutting up a chassis when you can build a nice solid tube frame to fit the 904 body exactly? Use the /6 running gear and other stuff to make a sweet car.

As for coming to your place and telling to your face I would, but I don't live near you. I would gladly talk to you on the phone about it. And for the record my name is on all my posts.

Garold Shaffer

How is that hard to understand, I don't want to sell it, but if someone really wanted it and had an interest in saving it I said I would entertain the offer. Never once have I tried to use the thread to sell the car. So how about this, no I don't want to sell it, trade it, anything, I want to get on with my project, if you want to follow the thread great, many do, if you don't agree with the build, tell it to the mountain.
Are you still confused Garold?

Dear Admin,

Can we rename this thread to the "whine or go drive event" or something of the sort and start a new thread for those that are actually interested in the build.

Perhaps we could lock out all those that have contributed more than their 2 cents worth so we can actually follow the progress and not have to sort through 16
+ pages of crap.

Why is your opinion the only one that counts here? You can say what you want. I'm with those that are concerned for the historic value of the car that's about to be turned into a cheap kit car. Take a 15k car with historic value and history and turn it into a 5k plastic patch job. So some of us missed it. I'm sure if anyone had ever thought this is where the car's history would end it wouldn't be where it is.

First the cage won't fit so hack that off at the longs, then the width and length won't work so cut it up and weld it back together without the aid of a chassis jig. That's safe. Then cut out the suspension because that won't work. Where is all the "sorting" now. Wasted.

You think I don't know what I'm talking about just take another look at the last car Adam did. Engineering is not patching junk roller together, slathering it with filler, painting it with a roller, putting a cute name on it and calling it a car. This project is so far from proper engineering it's not even funny. If Dana were doing it may stand a chance of actually working. But then you would not need to start with a car of this caliber either.

Go ahead, hack it to pieces. When your done maybe someone with a real passion for 914's will be able to collect up the scrap pile and save what left like the 550... If you don't get what I'm saying go find a kit car sight where they build VW 40 Fords and Fiero F 40's. That will be cool.

Rick, you just don't get it....

Ya, get what? I've seen your work, You've seen mine. Who has the most street cred?

You are not capable of doing anything with that car other than turn it into a pile of scrap. Specially when you say you don't have 30k to spend on it. How do you plan on making a proper chassis out of a car that you have to cut into quarters without spending serious cash on a proper chassis?

Prove me wrong. Hope you do. If you do at least the car would end up in your scrap yard never to be seen again.

Didn't call you any names. Just pointed out the obvious. Maybe you should look up some of my work. Then maybe you would realize I'm not being a jerk and I actually know what I'm talking about. No need to name call Just stick to the facts.

Didn't call you any names. Just pointed out the obvious. Maybe you should look up some of my work. Then maybe you would realize I'm not being a jerk and I actually know what I'm talking about. No need to name call Just stick to the facts.

Rick's work...

Euro 928 powered 914. Probably one of the most engineered cars on this forum. Probably also, the most reliable since it's been driven to almost every corner of the US. I vouch for Rick's street creds.

No, you didn't call me any names, just ripped apart a car I spent 5 years working on, so yes, that makes you a jerk, and I don't care what you've done, I really don't.
I'm working on a car, if it doesn't work out that's my business, but I heard all the same things when I started work on the last car, and yet, that car got finished and sold.

Yeah, I don't care, I didn't start this thread as a pissing contest with any one else or their builds. I don't know Rick and he damn sure doesn't know me, but proceeds to shred a car I built and belittle one I am building. So I don't care if he can put a flux capacaitor into a Deloran, he's still a jerk, how is that for a fact.

The work speaks for itself. One of the rules here is no name calling. No personal attacks. Ya, 5 years... to patch up a patch quilt of scraps. Guess we don't have to ever worry about you getting to cut this one up if it took that long with that end result. Feel sorry for the guy that bought it. Who was it that said there's one born every minute?

Do you know how many guys post here and show their projects? Every kind an level of skills. I can't say I have ever seen a car posted here that wasn't built with passion for the 914. Yours doesn't seem to be heading that way. You have no idea what we have done as a community for 914 people. Show some respect. Your not the great and powerful OZ here. Your just another car guy like the rest of us.

Like I said, Prove me wrong. If it turns out to be of a caliber that Porsche would have built himself as you claim that's your goal, I'm man enough to say I was wrong. Beyond that the history of a well know IMSA race car ends with you. You will be forever immortalized for that in books and magazines for years to come.

The work speaks for itself. One of the rules here is no name calling. No personal attacks. Ya, 5 years... to patch up a patch quilt of scraps. Guess we don't have to ever worry about you getting to cut this one up if it took that long with that end result. Feel sorry for the guy that bought it. Who was it that said there's one born every minute?

Do you know how many guys post here and show their projects? Every kind an level of skills. I can't say I have ever seen a car posted here that wasn't built with passion for the 914. Yours doesn't seem to be heading that way. You have no idea what we have done as a community for 914 people. Show some respect. Your not the great and powerful OZ here. Your just another car guy like the rest of us.

Like I said, Prove me wrong. If it turns out to be of a caliber that Porsche would have built himself as you claim that's your goal, I'm man enough to say I was wrong. Beyond that the history of a well know IMSA race car ends with you. You will be forever immortalized for that in books and magazines for years to come.

Adam - Sorry this has gone this way but you have also fueled "their" fire.

Back on Page 5 (I think) I offered this, "Don't even pay a moments notice to the naysayers. I'd just start ignoring the ridiculous posts telling you what to do, what not to do and why. Enjoy whatever you do: the process, the designing, the details and the driving."

Others have offered the same advice but you have consistently tried to convince or rationalize your position - it is a losing battle, lost cause, never-gonna-win, etc., etc.

I've seen this before on this forum...a few die-hards just don't know when to quit. Then they attack you, your judgement, your skills, whatever. Then ask for it to be shut down - and they're the ones causing the ruckus (with your support, unfortunately).

Adam - Start listening to wise counsel (and learn to ignore) or stop logging in - save yourself brother! They'd go away eventually and if they didn't I'd expect a moderator to step in (that should have happened along time ago though - unless they sympathize with the "voices").

I believe it's your car so quit listening and arguing with others. Show us pictures and keep us updated.

And the king said, Divide the living child in two, and give half to the one, and half to the other.



Bring forth said car, for I owneth thy cutter of plasma-eth

I would love to see this chassis saved.

Terms have been sent to first interested party. If he declines I will offer same terms to the group. I would love to see this chassis saved.

Based on the historical value of the car and the interest in it, I believe my terms are more than fair.

Adam I commend you for your open minded approach to this!

Adam I commend you for your open minded approach to this!