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cary
Start the day with trimming the trunk panel. Not an exact cut. I leave about 1/4 too long.

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Then I give it a test fit.
Left seems about like normal.

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Right side, not so much. Giant hole.
Poorly done repair.

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I make the decision that cutting the same section out of my parts car is the best answer. Creating the bottom lip would take too long.

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Cut it out large. Then took it to the bench and removed the trunk floor portion.
Trimmed off the top.

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Short episode of Tool Whore. My new full size helmet. Oh baby ................
Everything I'd hope it would be. No interference from the flood lights.

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cary
Feel asleep while writing the post.
Early start and a great time with the guys at our monthly Burgers & Beer gathering.

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So in goes the patch after the usual fiddling and fussing. Trim, grind, repeat. Trim, grind, repeat. Had to make extra cuts to reshape the existing panel. They hammered the crap out of it.

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After I finish welding in the patch. Here's the next challenge.

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Going to try something a little different with welding in the sides of the trunk pan this time. Rosette welds on the front portion. Then in the back where we have the gap. Instead of rebuilding them I'll bend/fold them over and tack weld the top edge.
Once again, they'll be smothered in seam seam.

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Doug asked last night if we'd be better off looking for another car. My response. These cars are 50 years and weren't cherished in their early lives. Pretty certain most every car will have some issues. X-ray vision would be nice, so you could see under the paint and seam sealer.

What a dumbass ...................... I have Doug surfing the web looking for fenders and I have what we need hanging on the rack. We're only going to use the front portion of Mark's qtrs. on his car.
cary
Here's a shot of the buggered up tail light panel frame.

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Finish welding in the donor patch.

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Then I do some tinkering on the back end of the qtr. panel. They hammered out the crease. sad.gif . Why ?
Might be changing it out too ...............

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Then I test fit the tail light panel. Other than bottom portions on both sides, it fits real well.

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Next I cut out the trunk panel for the pan plugs.

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Doug stopped by after lunch to drop of the hoods. 2 old metal ones. And the new fiberglass rear trunk. Cool
He ordered me a new exhaust shield. The other is too bent up. Who knows
Seeings that this will be his touring car. He's looking at having the shield ceramic coated to keep the heat down in the trunk.
Sent Mark an email about using the back half of the his qtr. panels hanging in the rack.
raynekat
Just got back my newly recovered steering wheel from Autobahn Interiors.
Did the double wrap in leather.
Pricey but "oh-so nice."
They found that part of the wheel had been broken in the past so there was some welding repair necessary that is all hidden by the new grip.

Also just received from Hungary (less than 10 day shipping) a nice Hockey Puck reproduction that really looks great for the money.
Total of $170 (plus shipping which wasn't bad).
Got it off the "Bird" from a guy named Antony.
Easy transaction (Paypal I think) and received the item pretty quick.

Will definitely dress up the interior of the car when complete....

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raynekat
Latest craziness.....
Re-flocking the glove box.
Why do this? I guess the best answer is because you (or I) can....
Turned out great with very little effort.

A business opportunity for moi? welder.gif

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raynekat
More fiddling today.
Tried the new Tn1-Tn2 yellow lens.
Look pretty sharp.
Will be a tough decision when the time comes to mount them....clear or yellow?
Might alternate yearly....

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Cairo94507
Man you are moving right along. Terrific work.

I may have to look up the hockey puck guy....really want one of those on my car. OK - I sent him a PM on the Bird and told him I want one and sent him my info. A moment of weakness....

OH BTW, really love the yellow foglight lenses.
raynekat
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 20 2016, 07:50 PM) *

Man you are moving right along. Terrific work.

I may have to look up the hockey puck guy....really want one of those on my car. OK - I sent him a PM on the Bird and told him I want one and sent him my info. A moment of weakness....

OH BTW, really love the yellow foglight lenses.


The yellow is looking good as you say.
On a white car, they might be really nice.
Depends on how much I will really use them...or not.
The clear ones ought to work as driving/fog lamps where the yellow will be fog only.
How much fog will I really be driving in?

Like I said, it might be an annual change out for a different look each year.
cary
QUOTE(raynekat @ Jul 20 2016, 11:56 AM) *


Re-flocking the glove box.
A business opportunity for moi?

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Based on Earl's reaction when I pulled the nice glove box out of the 964 rally car project I'd say yes. But do it for all models. Bigger base.
I'd add your hand painting of the heater controls too. Then you could stretch it a little further. Disassemble the heater control and have everything replated. That too could be stretched across all models.

Both of these could be done world wide .................... Not going to keep you gainfully employed. But it would keep you off the golf course. beerchug.gif

Heading out to put a 1/2 day in on your car. I'll cut out the other inside trunk corner on the parts car and start looking at the seat belt packet cut out.


cary
Here is the left inside trunk corner cut out from the parts car.

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Here's the ugly, over hammered and bumpy section I'm cutting out.

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After some measuring, trimming, fiddling and fitting. Its ready to weld in on Thursday.

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cary
As I was working on the inside of the trunk. Super In Law went to work on repairing the butchered up tow hook framework.

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He's building the extension rather than cutting up the other cut out tow hook.
raynekat
Some other back burner items getting finished while Cary works on the metal work.

The fan/shroud from the 2.4 MFI T motor.
Years of decay and corrosion.
Some nicks and chips in the blades.
Etc, etc.

Sent them out to Mark Motshagen for refurbishment.
The end result is quite stunning.

So.....

THE BEFORE:

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raynekat
THE AFTER:

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All new plating and rivets on the center pulley section.
He repairs the chipped vanes and refinishes it all.
Then out for what I believe is some kind of ceramic coating....it's not powder coated.
This is much, much better.
More durable and to my eye, much nicer looking.
Is it concours? Not at all, but I'm not doing a concours restoration.
More of an R Gruppe improvement or hot rod.

The fan is a dark charcoal gray and the housing is done in black as many of the 911 motorsport engines were done.
Combined with a nice amber fan shroud by Damon @900 Series...should look great
with the rest of the refinished MFI accoutrement (my $50 word for the day).

Enjoy
Gmanscott55
WOW... Looks fantastic. smilie_pokal.gif
cary
Back to the task at hand.

Welded in the left inside trunk corner. Fit real nice.

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I added back in/on the tail of the inner fender portion.

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Then I welded on the tow hook extension that Super In Law created on Friday.

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90 degrees in the shop with all the lights off, and the doors closed

raynekat
Last hot day today. Back to cooler temps after that. Sounds like the shop needs a swamp cooler?
cary
Still hot ..................90 degrees when we left at 5pm.

Started the day with grinding down the inside trunk corner patches. After the grinding and sanding was finished I coated them with cold galvanizing.

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While cold galvanizing was drying I sprayed down the trunk support panel with OSPHO. Getting it ready for a rub down with a red scour pad and an application of cold galvanizing.

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cary
Then went after trimming down the trunk panel somemore. Reinstalled the taillight panel to check all the edges. I won't install the taillight panel until we change out the back end of the qtr. panels. Don't want to get the cart ahead of the horse ...............

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After fitting the trunk panel I decided I'll do a complete extension of corners. The panel is just a bit short in the corners. More to come tomorrow..........

Then onto the inside tie in portion of the tub that welds to the taillight panel. Doug's was squished and over hammered. The ones off the parts car were rotten.

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Left side ................... Buckle needed to be cut open and the edge straighten.

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Right side ............... pretty messed up.

Left side all tidied up with my electric glue gun.

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Sorry for the sideways .....................

Then onto the right side repair. Super In Law created the patch piece last Friday.

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cary
After extending trunk panel I'll start on the delicate patching of the cowl and windshield frame.

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cary
Began with cutting the right corner of the trunk panel to create the extension needed to fill out the corner.

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Basically cut it right in front of the vertical flange. This will allow me to swing the vertical portion out to the wall were it needs to be.

This is the extension needed to get the correct fit.

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I use numerous shapes and sizes of brass backers to assist in welding in the large gaps/areas.

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Here is the finished work. Before and after grinding.

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You don't need to get too carried away with grinding. Most of the new extension will be covered with seam sealer.















cary
The left corner needs a larger extension. But with enough brass bcakers it all works out.

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I'll post the work and findings on the left windshield frame/cowl rust tomorrow night.
Heading to PIR early in the am. Rothsport has five car running in the event.
I'll meet up with Doug at the race track .............................




cary
While I was expanding the trunk floor Super In Law was cutting some pieces for the right window cowl.

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He created what we thought we would need.

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But after I cut open the top portion all I found was Bondo. sad.gif

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These are shots after Bondo was dug out.

Talked to Doug at PIR before I posted the pictures. Not exactlty what we thought we'd be looking at. He'll get a windshield cowl coming from DC.

A couple more shots. I'm hoping with the new cowl I can save us from removing the fender.

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Here's Jeff Hail's work on his car.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...dead&st=240
Starts at Post #262

Off to 3 day's of rally car prep at Rothsport. I'll be back on Thursday night.
cary
Yesterday was a short day at the shop. Time for the every other year oil change on the 911. Mobil One V-Twin. Plus I installed the Rothsport oil tank check valve.
http://www.rothsport.com/Products/Engine/O...heck-Valves.htm

Doug stopped by to drop off the fiberglass front hood to put into safe storage and the new to us exhaust heat shield (DC). I'll get the heat shield sand blasted and reworked with my removal set up. I think then Doug plans on having it ceramic coatied for heat dissipation.
porschetub
QUOTE(raynekat @ Jul 20 2016, 02:32 PM) *

Just got back my newly recovered steering wheel from Autobahn Interiors.
Did the double wrap in leather.
Pricey but "oh-so nice."
They found that part of the wheel had been broken in the past so there was some welding repair necessary that is all hidden by the new grip.

Also just received from Hungary (less than 10 day shipping) a nice Hockey Puck reproduction that really looks great for the money.
Total of $170 (plus shipping which wasn't bad).
Got it off the "Bird" from a guy named Antony.
Easy transaction (Paypal I think) and received the item pretty quick.

Will definitely dress up the interior of the car when complete....

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Nice,notice the embossing of the leather is a little heavier than the leather ones currectly sold on ebay,not sure which is more authentice but I like it.
My wheel isn't quite up to your standard as it needs a repaint,all the $$$ stuff has been done however.
Double rap leather on the wheel is the way to go for sure ...much better grip.

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cary
Looks like Doug's rear qtr. panel sections and windshield cowl will be coming off a donor car I'll be picking up on Thursday morning. I didn't look at the other sections too closely because I was focused on what I need. But both longs look pretty good.

I'm not one to cut into tubs that could be restored. But his car has been hacked up for some sort of V6 conversion.

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California car that has only been up here in Portland a couple years. No rust bubbles in the sail panels either.
raynekat
While Cary continues on with the metal work on the body, I've been working in the background with more of the subsystems.

Just got most of the dash restored.
Frame was painted a nice satin black by the local auto paint shop.
Added some of my own pseudo basket weave for the dash face....same stuff I've put on the door panels.
Hand repainted the fresh air/defrost levers.
Purchased a nice reconditioned Becker Europa II stereo...actually stereo, many are just mono.
Reflected the glovebox....DIY.
Newly refreshed glovebox lock the is rekeyed to match the rest of the car.
Topped off by a new 914 Rubber dash top.
Sneaked in some new switch centers/inserts.
Some of those have come from VW vendors as our cars share a lot with those guys.

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raynekat
In addition, I just received back my newly rebuilt alternator.
Some guy has a buddy through 911 S Registry....yada yada.
Anyway, the alternator reappeared in mint condition.
Cosmetically and functionally.
I had bad diodes, brushes, etc.
All replaced with new bearings plus a cometic restoration as well.

Combined with the restored fan/shroud from an Early S vendor, and that part of the engine is looking brand new.
Shame it will be buried in the engine compartment never to be seen.
Guess I'll just print out a poster sized pic of the finished engine (Rothsport) to put in my man cave. tongue.gif

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Guess I need to post pics of the amber fan shroud the Damon at Series 900 built for me.
Really goes well the the fan/shroud.
Mr.Nobody
Awesome thread so far. Really enjoying all the metal work details. Car is going to be phenomenal when finished.
jmz
Doug, can you share alternator rebuild source? blue car alternator needs service.

Car is going to be AWESOME!
raynekat
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Doug, can you share alternator rebuild source? blue car alternator needs service.

Car is going to be AWESOME!


David with 901.services@gmail.com

I think the bill was something like $250 and they'll check out your voltage regulator as well.
My alternator was pretty old and crusty looking.
Came back looking nearly brand new besides all the refurbishments they did.
cary
Picked up the donor car this am ...............

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This is the first car that I think had spent it's entire life in California. There is no rust in the sail panels. Only two little spots from the foam over the passengers door handle. Front hood has no visible rust under the rolled edge. The front trunk seal channel is bitch'n. But it has fairly aggressive damage from the battery acid.
Rear trunk was cut for the V6. But not removed. So it could be re-welded.

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Doug we got your seat belt retractor pockets too .......................

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Top is going to the dump. Big crack right down the middle.
Extra front end.
We got 3 of the rear wheels.
raynekat
Just put together one of the seat bases after getting everything back from the powder coater and plater...plus using 914 Rubber's seat base bushing kit.

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Everything went smooth excepting the supplied roll pin...just too large to fit in the hole.
So instead I used a tapered pin I found at our local hardware store.
Easier fit by far, and will never come out.

The big problem or puzzle was how to "wind up" the spring so that the tapered pin could be inserted.
Took some "Neanderthal" ingenuity, but I got it done with some help from the wife (need 3 hands for sure).

One more subsystem checked off.
jmz
Looks like you are on your way to building another nice one Doug.

I'm going to have to reach out to you for pointers when I start on the little details with mine.

Cheers,
JZ
cary
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While cold galvanizing was drying I sprayed down the trunk support panel with OSPHO. Getting it ready for a rub down with a red scour pad and an application of cold galvanizing.

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Took a couple minutes and tidied up the OSPHO and gave the panel a layer of cold galvanizing.

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raynekat
QUOTE(cary @ Sep 5 2016, 08:10 PM) *

QUOTE(cary @ Jul 29 2016, 08:13 PM) *


While cold galvanizing was drying I sprayed down the trunk support panel with OSPHO. Getting it ready for a rub down with a red scour pad and an application of cold galvanizing.

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Took a couple minutes and tidied up the OSPHO and gave the panel a layer of cold galvanizing.

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Can't wait for some new progress on the metal work on my car.....
After Mark's car is done, then it's on to mine.
Archie
QUOTE(raynekat @ Feb 12 2015, 09:56 PM) *

Just lookin' to build a killer 4 cylinder 914 that is factory race look.

I'll show you what I've got in mind over the coming months.

BTW....this was my attempt with a 911.

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My '72 came with the "Porsche" decal on the rocker. Seems to be quite rare?
raynekat
Some of the 911 conversion parts arrived today.
Bit the bullet as I know I would have received a lot of flak for keeping the 914-4 braking system with a 911 engine that will be making around 200hp.
The upside is that I'll be able to take the car to the track....which I wouldn't have done previously.

Pity that I won't be able to use the killer 4 bolt Minilites, but I'm looking at a set of 15x6 deep (ET36) and 15x7R deep (ET49) replica Fuchs from Group 4 Wheels.
I'll get the wheels in bare aluminum and have them refinished in RSR style by these folks: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...gh-quality.html
Haven't put the order in for these yet.

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SC Bilstein struts and hubs. Dampers will be changed out for a set of Bilstein HD from Elephant Racing.

911 axles....you can see they are shorter than the 914 ones.
So I'll be doing the Sway-A-Way longer 930 axle conversion.

Trans flanges, 911 stub axles and rear hubs as well. Likely will be replated although they do look good currently.

All this came from Retro Automotive out of New Hampshire.
Very clean and in very good condition.
Can't recommend them enough....

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raynekat
Another big batch of plating is coming back from Shaun @ Tru6 Restoration & Design.
As before, really, really nice work and will make putting the 71 back together a joy when that time comes next year.

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Frankvw
Another great Plater-Picture ! nice work Raynekat. interesting to read the posts/progress.
cary
I hope to be back on it tomorrow.
4 corner brake work and fuel injection install on Mark's car today.
cary
Like always, I ran into a few more issues on Mark's car. sad.gif
Mark's car is not ready to go home yet, but onto Doug's car we go.
The star of the show ..................

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New episode of Tool Whore. I will be purchasing a Snap On PTS1000 for the heavy lifting. It has a dual chuck that allows you to use Sawzall blades with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcCYjl8c3Rw

raynekat
I'm ready to go Cary.....
cary
We need to be thinking about the stripping, I'm thinking the sooner the better.

Then maybe a sit down with the paint shop to talk about how far I go. i.e. primer and body filler. 1st. I don't want to do anything to void the paint job warranty. 2nd. No reason to do something they'll just remove and redo.
Bad money ..............

With the Jan 1st. dead line I think I'll be burning the mid-nite oil a couple nights per week.

I'll get Super In Law (Jack) building a couple more sets of door braces and engineering the new under carriage extension for the rotisserie mounts.
Then I'll move my car to a dolly and we should be good to go.

Dad's Garage had a Jiffy Lube oil change yesterday for the daughters, new to her 2013 Acura TSX, nice car. She said, "Dad, did you know you have nine 914's here right now ?". She proceeded to shoot pictures of each and post them on Snap Chat. Too funny. I hadn't really thought about it.
mepstein
QUOTE(raynekat @ Sep 22 2016, 10:17 PM) *

Some of the 911 conversion parts arrived today.
Bit the bullet as I know I would have received a lot of flak for keeping the 914-4 braking system with a 911 engine that will be making around 200hp.
The upside is that I'll be able to take the car to the track....which I wouldn't have done previously.

Pity that I won't be able to use the killer 4 bolt Minilites, but I'm looking at a set of 15x6 deep (ET36) and 15x7R deep (ET49) replica Fuchs from Group 4 Wheels.
I'll get the wheels in bare aluminum and have them refinished in RSR style by these folks: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...gh-quality.html
Haven't put the order in for these yet.

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SC Bilstein struts and hubs. Dampers will be changed out for a set of Bilstein HD from Elephant Racing.

911 axles....you can see they are shorter than the 914 ones.
So I'll be doing the Sway-A-Way longer 930 axle conversion.

Trans flanges, 911 stub axles and rear hubs as well. Likely will be replated although they do look good currently.

All this came from Retro Automotive out of New Hampshire.
Very clean and in very good condition.
Can't recommend them

We got some 7R & 6 deep w/hearts, replica wheels from group 4. It took one of my guys many many hours to sand and polish the finish before they were usable. They come very rough. Don't be surprised if your refinisher charges you $$$ to do the job.
cary
Ran to Clackamas first thing and picked up the new Snap-On air saw. By the time we stopped for lunch we didn't get to the shop till noon, but I hit the ground running.
I've been dreaming of cutting off the tail end of the qtr. panels for a month.

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After the trouble with the trunk seal channels on Mark's car, I scaled back my cut out a bit. In addition both trunks are getting fiberglass with wood frame lids. Which will be quite the challenge to get the fit I want.

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Back to cutting up a perfectly good car.

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I got so engrossed in my work I forgot to shoot a couple before pictures of the parts car. sad.gif
Qtrs cut off. Taillight panel cut away. Because of my needs on the qtr. panels I only salvaged the center section of the taillight panel. Super In Law is working on breaking down the tow hook in case it might be needed for a bumper back date.

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Looks almost like the Pre-Runner truck I'll be driving in Baja. biggrin.gif

Then on to the tedious task of cutting out the seat belt retractor pocket.
This is not for the faint of heat. Very tight work up against the door/targa bar frame.
Primary issue is doing as little damage as possible to the parent material of the pocket area.

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We will save/cut out the bottom half of the firewall at a later date

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That one unseen spot weld gave me fits getting the piece out.

But here she is stripped down and sitting on the work table.

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I'll get after the left side first thing in the am. Then on to the tedious task of unpeeling the onion. Breaking down the multi layered portion, one layer at a time.

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cary
Friday was spent prepping the parts cut out of the donor car. Note : The parts were cut out intentionally large to allow me to work from the backside. This will allow me to do the least amount of damage to the parent material of the part being used on the car.

Step One :
Remove all seam sealer with heat gun and small and medium wood chisel.
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Cut down back side of spot welds with cutter.
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Pop off cut spot welds with small wood chisel
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After all the dust has cleared from the sawing. Determined that the pocket will be trimmed to fit. 1. Top portion will lay on the cross brace and be rosette welded in. 2. If I can, the outer and bottom weld to be lap welded with rosette and seam welds. Most of the busy work will be under the interior back pad.
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cary
Now where was I ? Next I was on to preparing the qtr. panel back corners. After looking at the taillight panel I decided a was going open up the rosette holes on the lower portion. The lower portion of the taillight panel is solid. smile.gif

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The cut out of the taillight portion went well. Did have one drill thru, but all in all, nice. You will find piles of seam sealer up in the inside corner. mad.gif
Next will be blasting it clean. I'll use garnet on the back. I'm thinking I'll try the walnuts I have for the front. See what type of finish it gives me.

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raynekat
Because I'm putting a 2.4 MFI engine into the car, certain MFI specific items are needed.

First off, MFI micro filter and console.
New filter, powder coated bracket, freshly yellow zinc plated hardware, new seal gaskets, and misc hardware.

Ready to supply high pressure fuel to the hungry beast....

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raynekat
Next up an MFI specific fuel feed/supply pump.
With freshly powder coated pump bracket.

Again needed for the high pressure fuel needs of an MFI engine.....

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raynekat
From Stoddards, a new high efficiency 914-6 oil cooler.

This was sent to Pacific Oil Cooler to be cleaned and pressure tested.
Considering what the engine will cost to build, this seemed like a smart thing to do.

It's hard to tell by just looking whether or not these oil coolers are good...
For example, the oil cooler that came on the engine actually failed the pressure test even though it looked fine....was going to sell it. Trashed it instead.

Also most of the flexible oil lines that go with the 914-6 oil tank....

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