Cairo94507
Jun 27 2012, 07:58 AM
Yeah, I agree re the seat belt receiver; I tried it on another six I had and fortunately did not break or damage anything. As soon as I saw it stuck in the receiver I said, well that was poorly designed and never tired it again.
As for gold.....man I catch a lot of grief over my plan to change the original color but I just can't have a gold car - especially that gold. I still plan on going light ivory but irish green is a strong 2nd.
JmuRiz
Jun 27 2012, 08:40 AM
QUOTE(pete000 @ Jun 26 2012, 08:46 PM)
I vote to make it gold again !
scotty b
Jun 27 2012, 09:57 AM
give it up guys.
The car will not be gold, I am fully backing Michael in this decision
Gustl
Jun 27 2012, 11:27 AM
QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Jun 27 2012, 04:55 AM)
I dig the gold. I have never seen that color on another car, and if this is going to be a high quality resto, I think that the value it will add would be big. Can somebody do a PhotoShop?!?!?
would some photos be o.k.
front valance and black rear wall are not correct, but it should give you a good idea of a gold metallic car
Cairo94507
Jun 27 2012, 11:57 AM
I had that series of pictures as my desktop for quite a while.....still didn't work. Sorry, but I appreciate you trying.
Thanks Scott for the support
OU8AVW
Jun 27 2012, 12:36 PM
I don't think you understand, the community has voted and you will be painting your car gold.
Scotty only agrees with you because he has paint left over from my car
rgalla9146
Jun 28 2012, 04:16 PM
QUOTE(OU8AVW @ Jun 27 2012, 10:36 AM)
I don't think you understand, the community has voted and you will be painting your car gold.
Scotty only agrees with you because he has paint left over from my car
on second thought.......those pics of a gold six look pretty cool.
also..... not too many early 914s' were metallic colors..... and original means never having to say you're sorry
bigkensteele
Jun 28 2012, 06:38 PM
QUOTE(Gustl @ Jun 27 2012, 09:27 AM)
QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Jun 27 2012, 04:55 AM)
I dig the gold. I have never seen that color on another car, and if this is going to be a high quality resto, I think that the value it will add would be big. Can somebody do a PhotoShop?!?!?
would some photos be o.k.
front valance and black rear wall are not correct, but it should give you a good idea of a gold metallic car
That looks nice! Interesting fog light covers
Cairo, as we learned today, democracy doesn't necessarily mean that the majority gets their way, and it certainly doesn't mean that the people paying for things get their way.
scotty b
Jun 28 2012, 06:54 PM
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Jun 28 2012, 02:16 PM)
QUOTE(OU8AVW @ Jun 27 2012, 10:36 AM)
I don't think you understand, the community has voted and you will be painting your car gold.
Scotty only agrees with you because he has paint left over from my car
on second thought.......those pics of a gold six look pretty cool.
also..... not too many early 914s' were metallic colors..... and original means never having to say you're sorry
Get over it
bigkensteele
Jun 28 2012, 07:11 PM
I am certain that it will look just as great as all of the other nicely restored light ivory cars we have all seen
I am just being a trouble-maker with an opinion. I am definitely a member of the "It's your car, do whatever you want" crowd, and I will never part ways.
Irish green is great as well. I remember a VW/Porsche or European Car article several years ago about an Irish green six that was restored from a basket case by some guy whose uncle was the original owner. Beautiful car. I am sure that T.C. has the article.
moparrob
Jun 28 2012, 07:18 PM
Light Ivory is nice (I'm biased) but to get the full effect you need to insert jack stands....
TheReverend
Jun 30 2012, 07:13 PM
this is Awesome... the new night time reading..!!!
TheReverend
Jun 30 2012, 07:15 PM
The Air was thick with Cat calls.. no pun intended..
EdwardBlume
Jun 30 2012, 07:19 PM
Paint it any color you want.... its your car and it will still be worth a fair amount of change...
dlestep
Jun 30 2012, 09:19 PM
where are the cowling supports ?
scotty b
Jul 1 2012, 09:50 AM
QUOTE(dlestep @ Jun 30 2012, 07:19 PM)
where are the cowling supports ?
the car is being completely stripped so I took them out
sixnotfour
Jul 1 2012, 09:58 AM
Ivory with Gold
Mr.242
Jul 1 2012, 10:47 AM
Ah I remember the stripping days...felt so good to get it down to naked to view where the repairs and needs are for the car.
I can't wait to see this build and the car put into better shape. I endorse the "do it your way" and Ivory White will be a nice look to a SIX.
What is the estimated time of completion?
Cairo94507
Jul 1 2012, 02:27 PM
I would like it done within 18 months or sooner if I can manage it. The only limiting factor is my wallet. I pay for this work out of extra cash every month. I won't go into any savings, investments, etc. so I hope to keep it going in a forward direction every single month.
Cairo94507
Jul 8 2012, 01:22 PM
Status update: car due to be on rotisserie within next 2 weeks and media blasted inside & out with a coat of primer by end of August. I am looking forward too seeing those pictures......
BajaXJ92
Jul 8 2012, 03:18 PM
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 8 2012, 03:22 PM)
Status update: car due to be on rotisserie within next 2 weeks and media blasted inside & out with a coat of primer by end of August. I am looking forward too seeing those pictures......
Scotty got some new shop toys.
scotty b
Jul 22 2012, 03:57 PM
Freaking oil lines took almost 3 hours to remove. I had to cut the lines every 6 or so inches, let that section of oil drain out, then cut the rest of the way through. I've never felt like I was so well lubricated in my life
Getting the top line was fun too.
In other news, the car has had the drivers rear quarter replaced, and I am almost certain both front fenders have been replaced unless the stitch welded seam is a 6 only assembly procedure. there is no gold paint under the black on the fronts either.
I have a feeling the car was wrecked early on and was repaired with factory panels by a very competent shop. It would be interesting to know the whole story though
Anyway, the car is completely dismantled now except for the suspension. Hopefully I will get it on the rotiserrie tomorrow and drop the suspension, then commence with scraping the undercoating and seam seaer prior to blasting it
seanery
Jul 22 2012, 04:47 PM
looking good! How effective was the home made trombone cooler? was there any evidence of chaffing or wear through at the chassis support of the copper?
billh1963
Jul 22 2012, 05:22 PM
Looks like it will take a few months to put that back together. Can't wait to see it finished!
balljoint
Jul 22 2012, 05:34 PM
In even better news I have sourced another original Gold 914 that has been painted white. So Cairo can return his Six to Gold and still have a Gold 914-4 painted white.
scotty b
Jul 22 2012, 05:38 PM
QUOTE(seanery @ Jul 22 2012, 02:47 PM)
looking good! How effective was the home made trombone cooler? was there any evidence of chaffing or wear through at the chassis support of the copper?
Michael nor I ran this engine much but the cooler should have been very effective. The 2 downsides is the removal of it should be needed, and the two holes that were cut in the front section of the longs is clearly what allowed them to rot out. No signs of chaffing aywhere. Whoever did this setup had a couple spots with some copper braces to keep everything stable.
seanery
Jul 22 2012, 06:25 PM
thanks for the info
Cairo94507
Jul 22 2012, 08:01 PM
Very nice to see this moving along. I am not really concerned that some panels have been replaced. I know that Scott will make sure that everything is perfectly fitted and welded.
In a car that is 41 years old it has to be the exception to find one with all original panels. I am just concerned that all of the rust and damage is corrected properly and that is why my car is in Scott's capable hands.
I am glad to see that oil cooler system come out; on an informative note, the prior owner, #2, said he has driven the car like that since the 3,0 was installed and never had a cooling problem and that included driving through the Santa Cruz mountains in the summer. So for those wondering, that's the best I can tell you.
Thanks Scott for working on my car and posting the pictures.
Michael
scotty b
Jul 26 2012, 04:42 PM
First flip
the weld flange on the front panel is a bit crusty but I only found one bad spot in the floor
Socalandy
Jul 26 2012, 04:57 PM
like peeling an orange and the floors look great!!
billh1963
Jul 26 2012, 05:27 PM
When are you getting the new blasting system? That would make quick work of the floors!
scotty b
Jul 26 2012, 05:41 PM
I already got the blaster, unfortunately blasting won't do much with the rubberized undercoating like this. It just tends to bounce off of it. IT sucks but manual peeling is the best way I have found for this coating. Keep in mind that the 6's were assembled in the same plant as the 911's, so they recieved the " deluxe " Shutzing
Cairo94507
Jul 26 2012, 06:38 PM
I am so glad to see that. I am really happy with the condition of this car so far. Please get some door braces on that baby soon
mepstein
Jul 26 2012, 07:09 PM
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 26 2012, 08:38 PM)
I am so glad to see that. I am really happy with the condition of this car so far. Please get some door braces on that baby soon
A solid car won't bend just hanging on a rotisserie.
Cairo94507
Jul 26 2012, 07:14 PM
Hi Mark:
I'm more the glass is half full kind of guy. With my luck Scotty would come in in the morning and my car would look like a U. I would rather be safe than wide awake at night wondering if it is sagging. But I want to say thanks for your vote of confidence in my car.
bigkensteele
Jul 26 2012, 07:27 PM
QUOTE(mepstein @ Jul 26 2012, 05:09 PM)
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 26 2012, 08:38 PM)
I am so glad to see that. I am really happy with the condition of this car so far. Please get some door braces on that baby soon
A solid car won't bend just hanging on a rotisserie.
I have heard that cars that are going to be painted gold are much less prone to sagging
Sorry, Cairo - couldn't resist!
mepstein
Jul 26 2012, 07:57 PM
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 26 2012, 09:14 PM)
Hi Mark:
I'm more the glass is half full kind of guy. With my luck Scotty would come in in the morning and my car would look like a U. I would rather be safe than wide awake at night wondering if it is sagging. But I want to say thanks for your vote of confidence in my car.
Think about the torque on the longs when the car is fully built 2200+lbs with driver and passenger vs empty shell 500lbs. Granted the suspension is more centered than the bumper but the rott is static and force is not being multiplied by bumps in the road. Cutting and welding are a different story.
Cairo94507
Jul 26 2012, 08:17 PM
The other night I woke up from a horrid dream....the covered transport arrived at my house and they opened the back and rolled out a metallic gold Six....thank God I woke up before I had a heart attack in my sleep. It was frightening..... I am still shaking from it.
Couldn't resist either. I am still 90% light ivory and 10% irish green. If I were a gambler, I would put my money on light ivory.
bigkensteele
Jul 26 2012, 09:11 PM
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 26 2012, 06:17 PM)
The other night I woke up from a horrid dream....the covered transport arrived at my house and they opened the back and rolled out a metallic gold Six....thank God I woke up before I had a heart attack in my sleep. It was frightening..... I am still shaking from it.
Couldn't resist either. I am still 90% light ivory and 10% irish green. If I were a gambler, I would put my money on light ivory.
You could paint the thing pink and I would still wish it were mine. Scotty is going to make that car dazzle, whatever color you pick.
smj
Jul 27 2012, 02:06 AM
QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Jul 26 2012, 07:11 PM)
You could paint the thing pink ...
Pink Pig?
Click to view attachmentHa ha, but seriously paint it whatever color you want. You pay the bills, you get to call the shots.
EdwardBlume
Jul 27 2012, 04:52 AM
In your dream, was there door braces on the transporter?
elmonte
Jul 27 2012, 04:41 PM
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 26 2012, 07:17 PM)
The other night I woke up from a horrid dream....the covered transport arrived at my house and they opened the back and rolled out a metallic gold Six....thank God I woke up before I had a heart attack in my sleep. It was frightening..... I am still shaking from it.
Couldn't resist either. I am still 90% light ivory and 10% irish green. If I were a gambler, I would put my money on light ivory.
It could have been worse!! You could have looked over and saw your wife like this!
Click to view attachmentcheers
Cairo94507
Jul 27 2012, 05:02 PM
If anything, it would have been me that was dead and painted gold! She is full blooded Portuguese. I am really afraid of her.....
Mike Bellis
Jul 27 2012, 07:06 PM
Cairo94507
Jul 27 2012, 08:29 PM
Hey Mike- I am doing the best I can. I love seeing the pictures too as the Scotty and the car make progress.
Valy
Jul 28 2012, 01:17 AM
Spoiler:
This is how it will look like.
Click to view attachment
Cairo94507
Jul 28 2012, 07:25 AM
Is that really light ivory? It looks whiter in that picture than I remember it. But yeah, generally that is what it will look like.
Valy
Jul 28 2012, 10:33 AM
That's the color but pictures and light conditions will impact the look on your screen.
I like the color a lot, mostly because it doesn't show the dust
scotty b
Aug 9 2012, 10:01 AM
Between my dad and I there is almost a full week just in scraping off the undercoating, and I still have one wheel well to go
Only found a few more SMALL rust spots to fix. One in the floor, one on the engine shelf under the battery tray and the spot on the long where the oil ines had been run. Media blasting will get the remainder of the undercoating bits off
Also note the rust that was underneath the foam in the rear corners. It's always a good idea to remove that stuff
mepstein
Aug 9 2012, 11:29 AM
Cool shots. Did you figure out how the orange got there?
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