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MATTYLITE
Hello 914 community,

Just wanted to let you all in on a 914 build to remember. This car was initially thought out on a napkin sketch, and has slowly been coming to life. The idea behind this project is simple, how would Porsche go about creating a 914 cup car today? Well, hopefully when the build is done, it'll meet our racing derived expectations that only a manufacturer like Porsche could (re) produce.

Brief Technical Specs (will list more as the build progresses):
-1974 Porsche 914 fully assembled by MSDSinc.

-Cayenne V8 TT 5.0 litre, derived from 2010 Daytona Prototype engineering, built by Lozano Brothers Porting (1000 / 1100 whp)

-Porsche 996 GT2 Transmission, built by California Motorsports

Some of you may ask why, we asked why not?


Enjoy,
Matthew Schneider
www.msdsinc.com

This is the condition that we bought her in,
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Don't know why I started cleaning this, it'll be replaced with new sheet metal fit for the Cayenne TT engine
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Custom racing seat!
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The 996 GT2 Transmission fully built by California Motorsport (CMS) for our 1000/1100 whp needs.

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All about the details!

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Sheridan wide body kit

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Carrera GT Exhaust Tips!!!

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The heart of the beast when it was first received

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What the engine will 99.9% look like when finished, and yes this is the 2010 Daytona Prototype (and Cayenne V8 all motor) winning car that you were just trying to remember.

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Messing around with some ideas, just pretend you see a roof biggrin.gif

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lunch time at the shop

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Many more updates to follow, stay tuned!
dfelz
Looking forward to watching his build come along, its going to be one SWEET ride when finished, and based on what i saw at the phoenix club the other weekend you guys wont disappoint us on this one!!! Keep the pics coming! beerchug.gif
phillstek
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Cairo94507
You have my attention. popcorn[1].gif
Woody
I think my balls just dropped a little further. popcorn[1].gif
mepstein
Awesome! - Looks like your going - all in.
iamchappy
This will look nice next to Marty's flat fan turbo Monster.. You guys kill me...
biosurfer1
Nice... I take it that's the engine I checked out for you? Looks like it worked out ok...good luck with the build!
0396
Wow, looking forward to the build!
Socalandy
this will be cool to watch popcorn[1].gif
JmuRiz
I agree, this is going to be so fun to watch!
JRust
Subscribed for sure evilgrin.gif . I'd like to add a big resounding HELL YEAH drooley.gif
Maltese Falcon
QUOTE(biosurfer1 @ Mar 14 2013, 07:27 AM) *

Nice... I take it that's the engine I checked out for you? Looks like it worked out ok...good luck with the build!

Thanks once again Brett for checking out the mill for us.
Don't forget that you still have an Msds rewards card to cash in!
Marty
RON S.
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Sweet,
and by the way, MSDS makes great headers too.... beerchug.gif
Andyrew
Umm... 1000whp/tq?

This is cool and all, but damn, thats a hell of a lot of money thrown in this car already... Im sure you have one hell of a connections list already to just get ahold of that engine/trani.. but Thats got to be at least 50k already spent on those two items and probably closer to 100k.....

kid914
A few months ago I was concidering this very same project. I had a lead on a cayenne v8 motor in my area..life prevented me from pulling the trigger and moving ahead with the idea.....! I went the 3.0l way. Maybe my next project confused24.gif

Looking forward to learning from your experiences..... beerchug.gif

Best Wishes. piratenanner.gif
Mike Bellis
Subscribed!

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stateofidleness
how do you/did you remove the glue residue from where the backpad was in the engine compartment without removing the paint?

I'm in the same boat and I want to get rid of the residue left behind but I don't want to remove any of the paint if I don't have to.

<forgive me if that's a noob question>
campbellcj
QUOTE(stateofidleness @ Mar 14 2013, 07:53 PM) *

how do you/did you remove the glue residue from where the backpad was in the engine compartment without removing the paint?

I'm in the same boat and I want to get rid of the residue left behind but I don't want to remove any of the paint if I don't have to.

<forgive me if that's a noob question>


Brake cleaner works for this, or similar solvents. Wear a respirator, and test a small area first to make sure it doesn't hurt the paint.
MATTYLITE


QUOTE(campbellcj @ Mar 14 2013, 09:00 PM) *

QUOTE(stateofidleness @ Mar 14 2013, 07:53 PM) *

how do you/did you remove the glue residue from where the backpad was in the engine compartment without removing the paint?

I'm in the same boat and I want to get rid of the residue left behind but I don't want to remove any of the paint if I don't have to.

<forgive me if that's a noob question>


Brake cleaner works for this, or similar solvents. Wear a respirator, and test a small area first to make sure it doesn't hurt the paint.


I used carburetor cleaner and a wire brush, but don't think this will save your paint. No matter what kind of way you go about it, any abrasive measures will show in the paint, e.g. no smoothness..
mrbubblehead
QUOTE(stateofidleness @ Mar 14 2013, 07:53 PM) *

how do you/did you remove the glue residue from where the backpad was in the engine compartment without removing the paint?

I'm in the same boat and I want to get rid of the residue left behind but I don't want to remove any of the paint if I don't have to.

<forgive me if that's a noob question>


i used a gallon of goof off. its not so harsh on the paint underneath.
jeeperjohn56
Don't forget to make a youtube video when it's running. piratenanner.gif
JmuRiz
QUOTE(mrbubblehead @ Mar 14 2013, 09:32 PM) *

QUOTE(stateofidleness @ Mar 14 2013, 07:53 PM) *

how do you/did you remove the glue residue from where the backpad was in the engine compartment without removing the paint?

I'm in the same boat and I want to get rid of the residue left behind but I don't want to remove any of the paint if I don't have to.

<forgive me if that's a noob question>


i used a gallon of goof off. its not so harsh on the paint underneath.

That's great information to know...wonder if ScottyB knows about this trick...

Do you use a sponge/towel/scotchbrite pad?
ruby914
This build is truly inspirational. Somehow the best ideas always come from a napkin sketch. At what point do you cross the line into building a "supercar" , this may be it.

Subscribed. popcorn[1].gif

Time to clean the shop and go on a supply run...

URY914
Good luck. You'll need it.

You might as well build a tube frame and hang that body on it.
MATTYLITE
QUOTE(jeeperjohn56 @ Mar 15 2013, 05:48 AM) *

Don't forget to make a youtube video when it's running. piratenanner.gif


There will be many to come!

QUOTE(ruby914 @ Mar 15 2013, 09:12 AM) *

This build is truly inspirational. Somehow the best ideas always come from a napkin sketch. At what point do you cross the line into building a "supercar" , this may be it.

Subscribed. popcorn[1].gif

Time to clean the shop and go on a supply run...


Thank you! and keep me posted on the progress biggrin.gif

QUOTE(URY914 @ Mar 15 2013, 09:37 AM) *

Good luck. You'll need it.

You might as well build a tube frame and hang that body on it.


By the time it's finished there will definitely be a mosaic (for lack of a better term) of tubes in conjunction with the original body. Our goal is to keep the OE platform as much as possible, to keep this project as much of a 914 when it's all said and done.


Best,
Matthew Schneider
www.msdsinc.com



Maltese Falcon
An LBP 5.0 cayenne v8 n/a built to Daytona Prototype spec.
Circa 2010.
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TomR
QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Mar 15 2013, 04:27 PM) *

An LBP 5.0 cayenne v8 n/a built to Daytona Prototype spec.
Circa 2010.
MartyClick to view attachment Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

Cool build! Are you going to stiffen stock chassis or build a tube chassis? What about weight distribution as well? That engine & tranny look heavy. Can't wait to see it come together! Good luck!
Tom
MATTYLITE
QUOTE(TomR @ Mar 16 2013, 07:12 PM) *

Cool build! Are you going to stiffen stock chassis or build a tube chassis? What about weight distribution as well? That engine & tranny look heavy. Can't wait to see it come together! Good luck!
Tom


Since we're keeping the 914 chassis, we will be implementing a complete front to back stiffening program for the car. Weight distribution will be dealt with when the car is in the assembly stage, where in which we'll have the car weighed and balanced to meet our racing program's requirements, while also maintaining an ideal balance.

Matthew Schneider
www.msdsinc.com
Maltese Falcon
This is the Loss of trunk space when using an inverted 996gt2
Transaxle. Our build will eliminate most of the trunk floor.
Photo courtesy CMS.Click to view attachment
JFJ914
QUOTE(stateofidleness @ Mar 14 2013, 10:53 PM) *

how do you/did you remove the glue residue from where the backpad was in the engine compartment without removing the paint?

I'm in the same boat and I want to get rid of the residue left behind but I don't want to remove any of the paint if I don't have to.

<forgive me if that's a noob question>

I used Purple Stuff, worked fine.
Maltese Falcon
One of the oe turbo exhaust manifolds.
You can just about pass a silver dollar through the discharge.
Too small for our turbonetics gtk.
Not even tubing, just 2 low grade stainless steel clam shells welded together.
We are designing some tubular Shorty turbo headers for decent spooling.Click to view attachment
Maltese Falcon
The "Flying mailbox" intake plenum.Click to view attachment
speed metal army
Ambitious and super cool.
I cant wait to see video of it driving/burning the tires off! smile.gif
BMiller
That's pretty crazy HP #'s for the little guy......I'll be watching this. beerchug.gif
Jake Raby
Awesome build!

Here is my 5.3 liter engine based from the 4.5 Cayenne. This is the normally aspirated configuration going into the LN Engineering Cayenne S. Next comes the 5.5 TT version for Beth's beast.

Genuine LN Nickies, our own billet rods, true 4 valve piston design from JE and all the other goodies. Having fun developing these components, engine designs and assembly procedures.

Nothing like doing it all from scratch... This is a 13:1 daily driver. The 6 liter stroker version is going to be a lot of fun to complete, for sure.

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sixnotfour
And what does this has to do with ????
Jake Raby
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Mar 24 2013, 06:14 PM) *

And what does this has to do with ????

These are Cayenne engine internals..
Maltese Falcon
Deep breathing for the new gtk's . Mandrel formed, Laser cut flanges ,
better spool up time. Click to view attachment
MATTYLITE
Hello 914 community,

Here's the projects latest update. Please, excuse the picture sizes as some were taken on my phone and others on a point & shoot camera.

Here you can see the 35+ years of Germany's finest glue coming off the aluminum trim from the A pillar. Also, if anyone is looking for near perfect 914 aluminum trim pieces PM me.

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These are the clear tail lights that came in from Auto Atlanta. They'll fit right in for that modern look we're going for.

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Cutting out the trunk floor pans

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Removing the rear view mirror from the windshield, boy was that fun....NOT!

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Removing the wire harness

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And completely out! Pictures don't show the work it took to get this all out in one piece justice. PM me if you're interested in this.

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Several engine pics just in from Lozano Brothers Porting. Here you can see the cylinder head porting they have done.

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Here is the oil pump being fit, notice no oil pan as it is currently being CNC'd for bottom clearance.

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Oil Pump side view, and no you're not trippin' out, the picture is upside down to show the engine right side up.

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Here is the block with the iron sleeves fitted

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This is the carbon fiber dash that will bring that race car elegance to our project, can't wait till it's finished!

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What the dash will primarily look like. (Picture taken from another forum member's car).

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Here is a pic from Neo914's car. This is what we need for our new headlights, if anyone knows anyone who has / makes or is willing to produce a pair please PM me.

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Air intake box idea from BBI's fabricator, "The_Fabricator" of Instagram, we'll be utilizing two of these for the twin turbo set up

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Throwing around some ideas for the turbos, how cool would this be!?
Photo courtesy of EuroTuner
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One thing is for sure though, our welds and pipe bends wont look like this!

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And how could I leave you without your daily afternoon dose of eye candy. This pic should really be rated NSFW, but her top is still on so I guess it's okay?

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r_towle
So glad to see someone doing this.
Marty, you are the right guy for this project.

It's something we talked about as soon as that motor arrived, but we all needed to wait till a few of them ended up in the junk yards...

I look forward to this car getting done
Maltese Falcon
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 15 2013, 07:19 PM) *

So glad to see someone doing this.
Marty, you are the right guy for this project.

It's something we talked about as soon as that motor arrived, but we all needed to wait till a few of them ended up in the junk yards...

I look forward to this car getting done

Yes it's coming along...wish I had more hobby time though. Thank you for the PUSH, I'll dive right back in there on Tuesday !
Marty
MATTYLITE
Hello community! Here is a small update, but too cool not to post!

I've been in communications over the last several months with a forum member on here, and created this beautiful masterpiece you see below. Let me just say, it was worth every penny. The quality and craftsmanship that went into this Carbon Fiber dash piece is bar none the best.

I think it'll look great with the black "texuede sp" I got to cover the dash with for that exotic race feel.

pretty much summed up my facial expression at first sight.. stones.gif

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Well that's it for the carbon fiber dash for now, but I'll be sure to post more dash pics once the texuede sp arrives.

Not to leave you so soon, here are some pics of the bulbs for the tail lights:

Over 120 LEDs per bulb! (excluding the smaller ones of course)

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r_towle
Love that dash....I wish they were in production, I would buy one.
ruby914
Matt,
Great dash porn, I took photos before sending it over but was never happy with the lighting.

So, what color will you paint the car? popcorn[1].gif

R towle, producing as time permits, your in the queue, PM sent.
MATTYLITE
It'll 'officially' be painted carrera white, but it'll be viynl wrapped (exterior only) in something crazy attention grabbing etc.

These were some of the ideas I was throwing around:

Gray Urban Camo,

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Orange Urban Camo,

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Red Urban Camo,
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QUOTE(ruby914 @ Jun 9 2013, 08:46 AM) *

Matt,
Great dash porn, I took photos before sending it over but was never happy with the lighting.

So, what color will you paint the car? popcorn[1].gif

Harpo
WOW that carbon fiber dash is sweet!

David
gothspeed
Awesome dash smilie_pokal.gif !!!

Where did you score those LED bulbs?
MATTYLITE
QUOTE(gothspeed @ Jun 9 2013, 07:10 PM) *

Awesome dash smilie_pokal.gif !!!

Where did you score those LED bulbs?



I got some of the LEDs from here, you can get different LEDs that'll fit their respective sockets accordingly.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/led-veh...914--/49-209--/
krazykonrad
Great project!!! beerchug.gif

Are the outside dimensions (space it takes up) of your race engine the same as a stock Cayenne/Panamera engine?

What engine mounts/mounting system are you using to get it to bolt onto the 914 body?

Thanks,

Konrad
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