914...

Eric set me up with 911 CVs for my Raby 2270

David

Depends on of he sells his motor to John.

Just a little duct tape should fix that up, right?

--DD

Maybe... NASA might have some duct tape that'll fix it!

Pending the arrival of the funds, the motor is sold.

So, anyone know of a 3.2 Carrera motor with all of its DME stuff for sale?

Need an oil tank too...

I see more of McMark's demeaning looks on the horizon!

Curious why not a 1995 3.6? I love my 3.2, but now the 3.6's are not that much more in price than a 3.2.
http://www.ladismantler.com/

3.6 is a possibility... Paul Sayegh is a friend and relatively local to me. He has offered to advise in the past... Seems like the 3.2 is getting harder to find as well.

I'm glad you sold it, I have been thinking about it hard and heavy for a few days. Now I can think about something else.

The two usual reasons. Availabilty and price. If the right motor comes along it wouldn't be an issue.

Both seem readily available at Parts Heaven and LA Dismantlers. I have to research what little devils hide in used 3.6 liters. 3.2 liters are pretty bullet proof with the exception of head stud pulls.

I have to say, I rode in Paul Sayegh's 3.6 liter conversion when he first got the engine in it, OMG!!!

3.2 don't pull studs, they wear out valve guides, 3.6 wear out valve guides and need the heads and cylinders cut, Unless they got the recall update...
I like the twinplug 3.6...3.2 is the best all around..IMHO

Your opinion should not be so humbly held Jeff... I will certainly consider that!

I thought only the 964 motors had the head problems. The 3.2 and 3.6 are known for bad valve guides. The 96-98 3.6 varioram engines are also known for clogged fuel injection problems. My 3.2 is an original euro 1984 engine with good compression and over 200k miles on it. The only thing I had to replace so far is the leaky oil return tubes.

Got the GT headlight kit installed. Not too challenging. Pretty much just a matter of cutting a new hole for the latch arm to pass through. Still gotta mount the release cables.

Nice! What was the weight of all the motor assembly removed?

~10lbs overall.

That'll do!

almost mine........

Ha! Glad you're excited. No check today. Kind of funny too considering it's just over the hill... I'll check tomorrow and let you know.

Oh noes. Not you too. I've got a 2.7 in the garage that I'm going to start building into a 2.5 short stroke.

my assistant said she actually put it in the box this am

haha my assistant said she didnt get it in the box till this am... : )

Yup me too... I will go with either a 3.2 with DME or a 3.6 with it's full EFI. McMark said something about twin turbochargers but he'll have to convince me...

700hp?

Funny you mention this!

Ever since Pete Stout and i went on that back-road run with the twin turbo i've been toying with that idea ...

OMG! Can you do that without cutting the body? will it work with the factory EFI?

I think so. Can't find the pics i took that day, they're probably on my old computer.

If Porsche can stuff them into this, there should be plenty of room in a 914!

Love the carbon fiber! You do have a point. There's a hell of a lot less room in there than a 914...

In there maybe, but the tail-draggers have a lot of room in the fenders, and some of the exhaust (in particular) winds up out there.

I wonder if there's enough room under the trunk floor for a couple of turbos? Or maybe you'd have to cut the floor...

--DD

Perhaps run the exhaust forward and put the turbos at the front of the engine.

Andy, got any time to come up on Sunday? We can put your car up on the lift and hold the Garrett T3/T4 turbo I have here up in some spaces and see what might work.

And so the plotting begins...

3.2 also has rod bolt issues, if you do a top end replace the rod bolts with ARP bolts.

Yes, i'll be there ...

I cancelled the turbo 3.6 play date because of rain. Plus I realized a NA 3.6 will need new pistons to convert to turbo. NA 3.6 = 11.5:1 compression. TT 3.6 = 7.5:1 compression.

Rob stopped by on his way to SFO and we disassembled the 915 transmission that died in his 84 Carrera. Thought about using it with the 3.6 conversion, but we'll probably run the 901 for now and do the 915 as phase two.

Enjoy the carnage pics though. Not sure if the syncro came off first, or something else. But a syncro peeled out of it's home. All the dogteeth sheared off and lost a few teeth on a couple gears. Oh, and the 'slider guide' (can't remember the real name right now) snapped all the ends off.

Eventually it'll have new different gearing and an LSD/TB diff.

I enjoyed lunch with McMark and the 915 carnage was viewed in person. It came with my pristine 1984 Carrera that was sold and sent to Germany last year. Locked up one night while driving home and I put in an LSD factory unit I found on the Bird...

Mark, send me a list of the carnaged parts and I will start sourcing...

Anyone sitting on a late 915 we could use for parts?

As McMark said, you have to wait for the right engine to come along. All of the 'Porsche recycle' yards seem to think their 3.6 993 motors are made of gold apparently. I have yet to come across a 3.6 from a private party except one that had been in a car that burned and I'm not sure I want in on that mystery.

So, the other day, I saw an ad for a part out on a Carrera. The car was in a front end accident and the owner was injured. He has a broken foot and wood from the floorboard on that side embedded in his other foot. He is hurting.

We emailed back and forth today, and finally, he called me. We made the deal for both the 3.2 and the 915. I figure I can use it after conversion and sell my 915 for parts. So, a six it is and 3.2 is the flavor!

Congratulations!!! I love my 3.2!!

Congrats. Hopefully that other point doesn't eat at you. 3,4,5,6. When you count it out......

A 3.2 can be made to put out the stock numbers of a 3.6. There is a combination of things that can be done. The intakes can be Extrude-Honed and balanced flow. The AFM can be replaced with a MAF that reports to the ECU as if it was the AFM. A Steve Wong chip can be added. Heck, just removing and replacing the stock exhaust gives you a pretty big boost. I'm not worried about the 'other points' as I can make up the difference if I want to. I suspect I will be pretty happy for a while though...

That, and the car looks soooooooooooooo good!

Had to mess with you bro. Hard to argue with a 3.2. One of the best Porsche engines ever.. I'm stoked for you and can't wait to see what comes of this.

So, what does a used 3.2 motor cost nowadays?

Raw, undelivered, the range was $5-8K with private party at the low end and Porsche recyclers at the high end. Hard to tell what the final cost will be though, as I have to sell off all of the 3.2 stuff I won't use such as heat exchangers, cat, muffler, AC, tin, air box, flywheel, clutch and pressure plate etc, then buy tin, exhaust, K&N, etc...

Get the dme checked to make sure the solder joints are all good.
Get the afm unit reworked at the same time.
Just save yourself the headache....stuff is old and flaky.

Rich

It came out of a wrecked '87 911. I have heard and seen it run and it purrs like a kitten and growls like a lion. I'm not worried about the AFM because I would replace it with MAF if it went bad. I have personally seen about 40 DME boxes at Parts Heaven. No headaches for me...

At just over 4000 RPM, all hell breaks loose in a 2800# 911 Carerra. I'm more worried about 4000 RPM in a 2000# 914!

I can't wait to drive mine.

What made you decide to go 6 over your built 4?

It had always been the plan. Ever since going for a ride in Paul Sayegh's car I have been sure I would build a street GT with a six. I owned the Bumblebee Racer and that was a six of course, but it was caged and absolutely a pain to drive on the street. I want Yopu to ride in it, hell! Drive it

I understand. One ride in a 3.2-6 did it for me. My 1.7 is a fun little cruiser and fun to drive but a strong 6 is an E ticket ride