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euro911
QUOTE(socal1200r @ Oct 9 2016, 06:09 PM) *
QUOTE(pbanders @ Oct 8 2016, 12:35 AM) *
Before you junk the FI, if you haven't taken a look at my D-Jet page (link in my sig), you might find it helpful. After you've made sure your mechanical (compression/vacuum), charging (battery/alternator), ignition, and fuel filter/supply/pressure are in good shape and operating properly, use my page to go through your FI system. Check that you have all the components, that they're correct for your car and engine, that they're connected correctly (electrically and vacuum), and that they pass basic tests I describe. Note that the ECU knob only affects mixture when the throttle position sensor is in the fully closed (idle or overrun) position. It doesn't affect your running (part or full load) mixture at all. Good luck, and remember that cars with good FI are generally worth more on the open market.
This is EXACTLY why I want to junk the FI system, and convert to carbs! This is WAY too complicated compared to a carb system. I'm really starting to have buyer's remorse with this car...should've bought the 1991 Alfa 164S instead...at least that car would be expected to have issues...
Obviously the decision is all yours, but I think you understand that the cam will need to be changed for the engine to perform efficiently if you decide to run carbs.

Don't give up so quickly. Once you sort the FI out, I think you'll be glad you did.
pbanders
QUOTE(socal1200r @ Oct 9 2016, 06:09 PM) *

QUOTE(pbanders @ Oct 8 2016, 12:35 AM) *


Before you junk the FI, if you haven't taken a look at my D-Jet page (link in my sig), you might find it helpful. After you've made sure your mechanical (compression/vacuum), charging (battery/alternator), ignition, and fuel filter/supply/pressure are in good shape and operating properly, use my page to go through your FI system. Check that you have all the components, that they're correct for your car and engine, that they're connected correctly (electrically and vacuum), and that they pass basic tests I describe. Note that the ECU knob only affects mixture when the throttle position sensor is in the fully closed (idle or overrun) position. It doesn't affect your running (part or full load) mixture at all. Good luck, and remember that cars with good FI are generally worth more on the open market.


This is EXACTLY why I want to junk the FI system, and convert to carbs! This is WAY too complicated compared to a carb system. I'm really starting to have buyer's remorse with this car...should've bought the 1991 Alfa 164S instead...at least that car would be expected to have issues...


FWIW, if you have a carb car, to make sure it's running properly, you still have to do all of the steps I describe up to checking the FI. But it's your car and you should do what makes you happy, best of luck with it.

76-914
QUOTE(tygaboy @ Oct 9 2016, 05:10 PM) *

Got my 2017 Build off Challenge project on the rotisserie!

Very nice rotisserie!
pbanders
QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 9 2016, 03:40 PM) *

God, I love modern day electronics. Went to the grocery store this AM and noticed a flat spot during acceleration and twice it cut out. Connected the OBD2 reader and found the error code, P0113 (intake air temp sensor). The voltage wasn't there nor did it have continuity. Peeled back the wiring loom and found a wire had pulled out of the butt splice connector which was crimped, and I use this term loosely, with the red handle tool. It is excellent for cutting and stripping wire but not for crimping. At the time I did not have this tool. Which brings me to this:

This is crimping tool:

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This is not:

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I have to laugh because I just did a stereo upgrade in my car yesterday, and I used butt splice crimp connectors to do the job, and the tool I used to crimp them was the cheapo crimper! I do agree it would be nice to have the "real" tool, and after seeing your post I'm going to get one. But, if you strip the wires to the correct length, use the correct connector size for the wire gauge, position the wire correctly in the connector, and squeeze really hard with the cheapo tool, you can still make a good connection. I had to do 22 crimps to do the job, I tested each one after crimping (pull hard) and I had only 2 that needed fixing. That said, the "real" tool is the way to go. I'm ordering one on Amazon right after I finish this reply.
euro911
I have the ratchet type for coaxial (radio & video) cable connectors, but for standard crimp terminals, I just use this type of crimp tool

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Sometimes I also solder after crimping, and apply liquid tape if the terminals are exposed to the elements.

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socal1200r
QUOTE(pbanders @ Oct 9 2016, 11:13 PM) *


FWIW, if you have a carb car, to make sure it's running properly, you still have to do all of the steps I describe up to checking the FI. But it's your car and you should do what makes you happy, best of luck with it.


Well, I'm not going to waste any more of MY time on this thing. I'll just take it back to the shop that installed the fuel pump, and let them mess with it. And IF they tell me it needs ANY FI parts, it's getting yanked out and replaced with carbs.
pbanders
QUOTE(euro911 @ Oct 9 2016, 08:36 PM) *

I have the ratchet type for coaxial (radio & video) cable connectors, but for standard crimp terminals, I just use this type of crimp tool

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Sometimes I also solder after crimping, and apply liquid tape if the terminals are exposed to the elements.

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When I solder, it's without a crimp connector, wire to wire, and insulate with shrink-wrap tubing. Takes more time but makes an excellent connection. Crimp is convenient and reliable if you do it correctly.
euro911
QUOTE(pbanders @ Oct 9 2016, 09:15 PM) *
When I solder, it's without a crimp connector, wire to wire, and insulate with shrink-wrap tubing. Takes more time but makes an excellent connection. Crimp is convenient and reliable if you do it correctly.
I agree, when it's a wire to wire extension, do the western union splice, solder and heat-shrink if you can.

I threw that pic in to show what liquid tape was, in case somebody asked. I didn't know about it until a few years ago. The connection in the pic wasn't mine cool_shades.gif
JFG
Stripped the rear bumper back to bare metal and welded up the nipple holes. It's now in a coat of filler primer and drying overnight before I give it and the front bumper their first colour coat tomorrow.
76-914
Drove mine a bit and ended up at Rudy's (Curbandgutter). I wanted to check out his progress. What an undertaking. Rudy has an extensive background in metals & welding plus he is an engineer so he is breezing thru it. He has a lot of the tube cut and ready to weld in. I'll leave it to Rudy to update his progress. Then he wanted a ride in Kugel. Kind of embarrassing when I considered he will be running 2.5 times the HP. dry.gif
On the way home I saw this. Someone is going to shit when they see their water bill! happy11.gif Check out the 35' gyser. blink.gif

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pbanders
QUOTE(pbanders @ Oct 9 2016, 08:19 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 9 2016, 03:40 PM) *


This is crimping tool:

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I'm ordering one on Amazon right after I finish this reply.


Gotta love Amazon Prime, that was yesterday, this came today:

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euro911
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Home Depot probably has that same crimp tool too ... I bought some other TITAN tools there a couple of months ago.
Shadowfax
Installed a Woody's Custom Shop MP3 player with the SSL 4X6 speakers. Sounds decent if not a little tinny. Wish my iPod had a better equalizer but I'm happy with it.
Also installed my"new" rain tray from Larmo63. beerchug.gif
DRPHIL914
I came home from the Hurricane Matthew exile- car and hose clean and dry!! My pool and yard are a mess but all the big branches missed the house- and over a foot of rain and house stayed dry!! Lots of yard work to do but maybe a nice drive later it's 75 and perfect weather- sawzall-smiley.gif some trees now--
forrestkhaag
I feel for you having grown up and colleged in Louisiana. Out here in Laguna Beach, we have had none of our predicted 3 inches for the year........

Makes for a good 914 project work environment however.

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Optimusglen
Today I dropped off a set of new front rotors to get drilled to 5x130. smile.gif
pbanders
QUOTE(euro911 @ Oct 11 2016, 01:34 AM) *

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Home Depot probably has that same crimp tool too ... I bought some other TITAN tools there a couple of months ago.


I did some test crimps with this new tool yesterday. Jesus! What was I thinking using the cheapo crimper for so long! This ratcheting crimper makes a crimp so tight you can't pull the wire out no matter what you do. Highly recommended!
76-914
QUOTE(pbanders @ Oct 11 2016, 11:16 AM) *

QUOTE(euro911 @ Oct 11 2016, 01:34 AM) *

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Home Depot probably has that same crimp tool too ... I bought some other TITAN tools there a couple of months ago.


I did some test crimps with this new tool yesterday. Jesus! What was I thinking using the cheapo crimper for so long! This ratcheting crimper makes a crimp so tight you can't pull the wire out no matter what you do. Highly recommended!

Agreed. 30 years ago I built a plane and had an AA friend stop by during the early stages of wiring the instrument panel. He began to pull on crimp connection with all his strength. I was like WTF.gif are you doing! He then pulled out a set of ratcheting crumpets and told me to go back and cut out everything he had not yanked apart and to use his crimped. IIRC, he said it was a 300 dollar tool. I didn't buy one at the time but I'll never forget how impressed I was with the. Romp job. That Greenlee. Let abput $75 and is well worth it. You can swing by those connections now.
JFG
I got the 1st colour coat on both bumpers. Then I sanded the entire outer shell of the car in readiness for it's final colour coat.

Feels like I'm getting somewhere now.
euro911
QUOTE(forrestkhaag @ Oct 11 2016, 10:17 AM) *
... Out here in Laguna Beach, we have had none of our predicted 3 inches for the year...
Ya know, they make a little blue pill to cure that poke.gif
speed metal army
I drove it! Ive been neglecting the LGD for damn near the whole summer as the black car was parked closer to the garage door. Man, the 911 is cool but the 914 is just a blast. Love my car. aktion035.gif
JFG
Wrapped up my car so well it now looks like a parcel.

I managed to get the final coat on 1 wing, door and valance. I don't have enough space to paint all in one go.

Had another play with my carbs to try and figure things out. Emailed a couple of people more knowledgeable than me about them.

Also managed to get a strap painted and stripped the flaky paint off one of the bump grills.

And I modified the mounts so that the trunk will now close properly with the gas struts fitted.

Not too bad a day.
76-914
Discovered another road last night on Google maps and went for a 1 hr drive this morning. Gotta love that satellite view. driving.gif driving.gif driving.gif
saigon71
Took the teener to the car show & car parade at Dillsburg's "Farmers Fair." It's always fun being tucked in between muscle cars & classics:

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I was shocked when I turned the corner and saw this...yet another green 914 in Central PA. I've never seen another 914 at this show. Don't know the owner or the car:

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euro911
Did you leave a note on his/her windshield?
914_teener
Drove my car finally on a longer drive. Hadn't hardly driven it except one time after Ron Meir passed this year. Went to hang out with the early 911 reg group. Saw a 356 with a "chopped" flat six in it. 4 banger with dual OHC and it was amazing sounding. No tappet noise, with what looked liked a dual outlet Dansk. You wonder if they built this and put in in a 914. Sorry no pics.

Perfect day here in So Cal ......mid sixties with patchy blue skies, might even get a little rain tonight.

Car ran flawless with new gas in it. I need to get out more.
forrestkhaag
I worked on the valve covers / hot tanked them then cleaned and painted / then stole one of my lovely wife's emory boards to buff off the PORSCHE lettering / the finish looks much beter than the reflections being shown in the photos,,,,, sad.gif Then helped Keith drop his motor yet again......
Steve
What's wrong with Keith's motor?
pbanders
Spent a little time doing some tuning. Got the car fully warmed up and used my Heathkit Exhaust Gas Analyzer to check and set the idle CO. Car recently had a valve adjustment and I checked the timing before setting the CO. Initial setting was about 4%, like I thought, too rich. Not only does it produce more pollution, waste gas, and increase HC's in the crankcase, it also can affect idle stability. Turns out the idle mixture adjustment on the ECU is quite sensitive, as a single click toward lean (CCW) brought it down to 3%. Re-adjusted the idle bleed screw to get the correct idle speed, and spent some more time checking the setting at various idle loadings (i.e. turning on various electrical loads). Will do some more test runs to see if I think this is where it should be. One day, I'll get off my butt and design and implement an active idle speed control for these crazy cars.
draganc
Replaced the hard line, master and flex feed brake lines.

I can't imagine what a pita it is to replace the master and the feed lines with the steering and suspension in place.
JFG
I finished brake master cylinder clean up, i know have all i need to refit the mc and the pedal box.

Stripped the headlight mechanisms and got them into primer. Haven't decided which colour to paint them yet, orange or black. Will flip a coin to decide that tomorrow. Also got the rear part of the engine lid into black, that's now finished & ready to refit.

More body painting tomorrow.
Mueller
Made a fixture to help mill flat and then drill out the broken exhaust studs.

Can be used for other mods to the heads as well since the angle plate is adjustable.

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Redraptor
Bought my 74 914 2.0 on Saturday. She won't turn over, needs a fair amount of body work out and a good cleaning. One owner 63k miles barned for over 30 years.

Today I ripped the rockers off and found...super solid longs. I had anticipated some damage to the passenger long just because of the hell hole, but after sticking my head under the car the hell hole damage stops just short of the long. The worst damage is where the rivets holding the rocker on rusted in their holes, so that will need some repair. Structurally the car appears and feels solid as a rock. I may have found the reason the car won't turn too, the drivers side seat belt wire was disconnected. I'm not holding my breath, but fingers crossed.

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Phoenix914
QUOTE(Redraptor @ Oct 18 2016, 06:47 AM) *

Bought my 74 914 2.0 on Saturday. She won't turn over, needs a fair amount of body work out and a good cleaning. One owner 63k miles barned for over 30 years.

Today I ripped the rockers off and found...super solid longs. I had anticipated some damage to the passenger long just because of the hell hole, but after sticking my head under the car the hell hole damage stops just short of the long. The worst damage is where the rivets holding the rocker on rusted in their holes, so that will need some repair. Structurally the car appears and feels solid as a rock. I may have found the reason the car won't turn too, the drivers side seat belt wire was disconnected. I'm not holding my breath, but fingers crossed.

Overall I feel it was a good Day 1. Day 2 is Wednesday.Click to view attachment


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mbseto
QUOTE(Redraptor @ Oct 18 2016, 06:47 AM) *

Bought my 74 914 2.0 on Saturday. She won't turn over, needs a fair amount of body work out and a good cleaning. One owner 63k miles barned for over 30 years.

Today I ripped the rockers off and found...super solid longs. I had anticipated some damage to the passenger long just because of the hell hole, but after sticking my head under the car the hell hole damage stops just short of the long. The worst damage is where the rivets holding the rocker on rusted in their holes, so that will need some repair. Structurally the car appears and feels solid as a rock. I may have found the reason the car won't turn too, the drivers side seat belt wire was disconnected. I'm not holding my breath, but fingers crossed.

Overall I feel it was a good Day 1. Day 2 is Wednesday.


Welcome, from Cincy!
DRPHIL914
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I hope its that easy for you! - so you cleared out and replaced fluids etc first? clean the tank, gas lines too first!! those lines will be bad after sitting for 30 years. -

Seems like very month or so we have 1 or 2 new barn find cars that have been tucked away in storage for some length of time that are being rediscovered!!! amazing how many are still out there! of course also good to see them no just rotting away but re-discovered and put back into use!

keep us posted on the progress.
Redraptor
QUOTE(Philip W. @ Oct 18 2016, 08:09 AM) *

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I hope its that easy for you! - so you cleared out and replaced fluids etc first? clean the tank, gas lines too first!! those lines will be bad after sitting for 30 years. -

Seems like very month or so we have 1 or 2 new barn find cars that have been tucked away in storage for some length of time that are being rediscovered!!! amazing how many are still out there! of course also good to see them no just rotting away but re-discovered and put back into use!

keep us posted on the progress.


I have clean up scheduled for Wednesday and Thursday. The front trunk got jammed in transport, so I need to drop the bumper, but the wasted tires are in the way of the bolts so I need to put her on jack stands to take the tires off to access the bolts to drop the bumper to access the trunk to clean stuff out. Phew.
JFG
I put the final colour coat on the last panels today. Having reviewed the bonnet i'm not happy so i'm going to redo it. Also got the rear roll bar trims into primer after a bit of fettling to straighten them up a bit.

Redraptor
Day 3 resto: Removed the bumper and wife popped the trunk yesterday So I spent the afternoon today I.D.-ing weird wires (CB wires), de-rusting the front latch release, and locating long deceased tenants(talk about finding a good reason to disassemble the car, screw rust dead mice are way more disgusting)

Day 4: Battery tomorrow for a full electric system check and start to remove gas tank for re-seal.

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tygaboy
Pulled the front bumper (swapping from painted to chrome) and cleaned!
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ndfrigi
QUOTE(tygaboy @ Oct 20 2016, 09:17 AM) *

Pulled the front bumper (swapping from painted to chrome) and cleaned!
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Nice! Love the color too!
stugray
QUOTE(forrestkhaag @ Oct 16 2016, 03:04 PM) *

I worked on the valve covers / hot tanked them then cleaned and painted / then stole one of my lovely wife's emory boards to buff off the PORSCHE lettering / the finish looks much beter than the reflections being shown in the photos,,,,, sad.gif Then helped Keith drop his motor yet again......
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There is something other than the valve covers in that pic that could use an emory board blink.gif
rjames
Got the new fuel pump installed a few weeks ago. Had to do some contorting under the car with to remove a kink in the line after installing it. Success!

Now there's a fuel smell. Probably yanked a hose loose, or the pump is leaking. headbang.gif
euro911
QUOTE(stugray @ Oct 20 2016, 10:26 AM) *
QUOTE(forrestkhaag @ Oct 16 2016, 03:04 PM) *
I worked on the valve covers / hot tanked them then cleaned and painted / then stole one of my lovely wife's emory boards to buff off the PORSCHE lettering / the finish looks much beter than the reflections being shown in the photos,,,,, sad.gif Then helped Keith drop his motor yet again......
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There is something other than the valve covers in that pic that could use an emory board blink.gif
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Wiping coffee splash off of my screen as we speak
Redraptor
Jack stands! The car is up and off the awful, wasted tires she has been sitting on for the past 30 years. Bought the kit to fix up the fuel tank.Click to view attachment

LowBridge
Spent the day working on the car with my son adding the vinyl sail back on.. thanks 914rubber.com for a great product

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mgp4591
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Finally got er flipped...
must've smudged the lens - either that or the drugs are kickin' in...
Mr.Nobody
Pulled apart the rest of the interior. Stripped out the 80's radio and wiring. Found some random coins from the 50's - 70's, pay stub from my grandfather's old business, and other random stuff.

Temporarily placed the carpet. Everything fit quite well. It's a 914rubber 10 piece, domestic loop kit.

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ClayPerrine
QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Oct 20 2016, 08:13 PM) *
Click to view attachment Finally got er flipped... must've smudged the lens - either that or the drugs are kickin' in...
This is what I heard in my head when I saw your picture...
mgp4591
Nice Clay...! I cut it out before I had to do "the Freddy" - I still don't have the legs for that quite yet. The longs are good, a little surface rust on some other parts, but for the most part she's very workable. It's nice to have this view of it now and see what I've really have to get done and explore the history of the car a bit. She was hit on the r.r. at some point because the last half of the rear fender is yellow - it's originally an Irish Green car. Lots to do but a much better idea of what it's gonna take.
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